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Old 08-06-2008, 04:25 AM   #46
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Maybe you aren't old enough to remember a time when, if you got caught acting up as a kid, you'd get belted by the adult neighbor who caught you, THEN you got dragged home to your irate parents who repeated the process.
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Now everyone is afraid to even raise their voice to a kid in case they get sued for assault.

It may seem like a minor thing but it's why we have the lack of accountability we currently have, IMO.[/quote

Use violence to deter someone from using violence in their future. This is what we should teach our children? scratching head

Time to get out of your rocker old man, you are needed at the old folks home.
Burn.

My grandmother and mom talk about those days.

But try that now and watch you end up locked up within 24 hours and I'm somewhat prone to agree with that. That stuff was okay during like 60's, but most of that crazy stuff has been overturned now, thank god.

Some kids are just down right BAD and no amount of beating is going to fix it. Plus I'm sick of parents who beat their kids over everything and in public areas at that and then wonder why their kids are so defiant.
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Old 08-06-2008, 05:28 AM   #47
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Burn.....riiiight. 'mredskins', you can't even use the quote function correctly, so you're probably ready for a new head-pointer and drool bib.

If you can't connect the dots between the way society was with accountability in the community to the way it is now then the issue may be your perception of the situation.

What discipline do kids face these days? A 'time out'? How's that working out?

'Cause and effect' is better taught with some kind of effect.
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Old 08-06-2008, 07:11 AM   #48
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I don't get it...what does all of this have to do with a clearly insane and evil guy beheading a young man on a bus?
I don't get it either. Not to mention the man was an immigrant from China. And, while I don't know for sure, I'm going to make not too far a leap in assuming that the "rules of discipline" remain a bit stronger there than in other parts of the world, including the USA and Canada.
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Burn.....riiiight. 'mredskins', you can't even use the quote function correctly, so you're probably ready for a new head-pointer and drool bib.

If you can't connect the dots between the way society was with accountability in the community to the way it is now then the issue may be your perception of the situation.

What discipline do kids face these days? A 'time out'? How's that working out?

'Cause and effect' is better taught with some kind of effect.
Could someone please wheel this old man away from the computer. he is
embarrassing himself.

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alright let's get it back on track
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:14 AM   #51
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Could someone please wheel this old man away from the computer. he is
embarrassing himself.

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Excellent! You make no valid point, but try to suggest that I'm too old to be right.

Mredskins, please post evidence of a decline in violence in the US since the 60's and liberalism and we'll discuss it.

I'll save you the effort, you can't.

Kids today, eh? Not good for much.

Matty, back on track? We all agree beheading is anti-social, some even agree that it's wrong. I'd just like to better understand why most people think it's OK not to try to step in.

I'm sure we can keep it civilized even though I'm being insulted.

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I think there have been some good thoughts expressed here as to why people didn't step in. I don't think it's got anything to do with living in a PC world. It boils down to instincts and the fight or flight response to survival. And in the end what is the point of judging those that were on the bus? They witnessed pure evil that day and I'm sure plenty of them have second guessed themselves in the days following. I don't think there was any right or wrong decision made that day. If someone here would have choosen differently more power to you. I just don't see what the point is in second guessing what they did or didn't do.
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I think there have been some good thoughts expressed here as to why people didn't step in. I don't think it's got anything to do with living in a PC world. It boils down to instincts and the fight or flight response to survival. And in the end what is the point of judging those that were on the bus? They witnessed pure evil that day and I'm sure plenty of them have second guessed themselves in the days following. I don't think there was any right or wrong decision made that day. If someone here would have choosen differently more power to you. I just don't see what the point is in second guessing what they did or didn't do.
Yeah, and I don't think there's any doubt we'd be talking about multiple killings if people had stepped in. Also, the kid never really stood a chance, he was 30 mins away from a shock trauma center and I'm pretty sure he was pretty much done after being stabbed once, so you're going to risk your life to save him from decapitating a corpse? That's pretty noble, but I think it would more than likely cause your death...
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Yeah, and I don't think there's any doubt we'd be talking about multiple killings if people had stepped in. Also, the kid never really stood a chance, he was 30 mins away from a shock trauma center and I'm pretty sure he was pretty much done after being stabbed once, so you're going to risk your life to save him from decapitating a corpse? That's pretty noble, but I think it would more than likely cause your death...
Exactly. We should also commend the people for keeping this guy on the bus until the police arrived.

From the moment this maniac decided to plunge a knife into this kid he never stood a chance. By the time someone could have realized what was going on and reacted he was probably already dead or very close to it.
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CCW, *cough*, *cough*......
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What is CCW?
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Carry concealed weapon, I think
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Still don't see where that would matter. The kid still would have been dead or very critical by the time someone could have shot this guy.
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Still don't see where that would matter. The kid still would have been dead or very critical by the time someone could have shot this guy.
It would have been nice to drop the guy with a gun, but it still wouldn't have brought the kid back.
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A gun wouldn't have helped here. As soon as you get stabbed with a 9-inch knife once, you're pretty much a goner. Let alone the multiple stabs this poor kid took. It may take a few minutes to bleed out, but that kid was as good as dead as soon as he let out his first yelp.

All a gun would have done would have been to achieve instant justice. But it wouldn't have prevented any deaths.
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