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Old 08-07-2008, 07:41 PM   #1
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66 Months, Out in 5!

The long awaited first terrorist military trial and sentencing is in ladies and gentleman and the verdict is, well, not satisfying. Question is what happens to him in 5 months?
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Old 08-08-2008, 04:13 AM   #2
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I was fairly annoyed when I saw this yesterday but assumed I'd be in the minority regarding our handling of enemy combatants.

But stuff like:

“After that, I don’t know what happens,” said Judge Allred, who had developed a warm relationship with Mr. Hamdan during months of pretrial hearings.

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Mr. Hamdan, who at times has shown a mischievous sense of humor, raised his arms and said a good-natured, “Bye, bye everybody.”

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“Inshallah,” Judge Allred responded.

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Mr. Hamdan’s answer to his safety if returned to Yemen, Professor Schmitz said, was: “Look, you guys get me out of Gitmo. I’ll take care of Yemen.”

Speechless..........Fortunately I can still type.

This is clearly a war our Government doesn't intend to 'win', as such.

If I were on trial I am fairly certain I wouldn't be 'showing a mischievous sense of humor'. What about the impartiality of the Judge? He developed a warm relationship with a defendant?!?!??! Does he even understand what 'inshallah' means? No, it's not as simple as 'god willing', you utter moron!

We are so screwed if this is the best we can do.


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Old 08-08-2008, 06:28 AM   #3
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Who knew former Redskins QB Gibram Hamdan moonlighted as a driver for Bin Laden...oh, wait
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just another feather in this administration's cap. what a bunch of buffoons
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:07 AM   #5
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just another feather in this administration's cap. what a bunch of buffoons
Should be interesting to see the spin on this one.
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Re: 66 Months, Out in 5!

It was a solid opportunity for the current Administration to set the tone, I really don't think that was achieved.

Having said that, what does everyone think should have been done? I'd be interested to know. I also promise I won't be replying to the thread and 'discussing' it.
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:40 AM   #7
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lol here we go. It's all Clinton's fault.
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Osama bin Laden: missed opportunities - Nightly News with Brian Williams - MSNBC.com

Too....hard.....to.....resist.....damn it!
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RedskinRat, I'm not sure why the judge's "Inshallah" response bothers you?

As for what should have been done, I would have taken the civilian court route. What really bothers me is that we've spend 7 years and millions of dollars to convict a lowly driver in a kangaroo court...and all he got was 66 months....so retarded.
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:49 AM   #10
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Stop with the blame game and see the principles of the matter...and the question is what to do with him after he's out.
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Stop with the blame game and see the principles of the matter...and the question is what to do with him after he's out.
lol good luck with that. The blame game is always a convenient excuse to skirt around the actual issues.
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lol here we go. It's all Clinton's fault.
Finally you admitted it.
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Finally you admitted it.
Right. I'd admit that as soon as you admit that Bush has been a major F up.
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There are reasons why civilian courts are not used and I don't have the time to look them up.
The reason they don't want to use civilian courts is because secret evidence and hearsay are not admissible in civilian courts.

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I do know one reason is because we are holding them as enemy combatants we have to use military tribunals (or what ever they are called).
That doesn't make sense at all. Do you mean "we are holding them as enemy combatant so we can use military tribunals."


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I also think even after his 5 months are up Bush will hold him as an enemy combatant as long as he is president.
Do you feel justice is being served? What's the point of the trial then? What about double jeopardy? Or incarceration without a trial?

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I agree what the judge said was weird and maybe he had his agenda. They may also use his words to call for a new trial as they maybe able to show the judge showed a bias attitude.
Hold it there!!! Aren't you jumping to conclusions? Maybe his intent was to mock him? Maybe his intent was to say "god willing we'll get ride of your ass?" You're not being fair. Also, there were 6 judges on the panel and you don't need a majority get a conviction.

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I would call military courts a kangaroo court as most do a good job and these guys have served our country. I have seen plenty of kangaroo civilian courts.
What is a kangaroo court? Please define it.

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Re: 66 Months, Out in 5!

I'm not sure why Bush is responsible for the verdict of a military tribunal. He's been accused of running a gulag at Guntanamo on the one hand, and now you are saying he's too soft? It seems a bit intellectually lazy to try to blame this leniency on The President.

BTW, if B.L.s driver been tried in a civilian court which is the direction the rest of the detainees seemed to be headed after the recent Supreme Court habeus ruling fiasco, he likely would have received no sentence at all. He probably would have gotten an apology and a big wet kiss.

I am surprised that a military tribunal failed to see that Bin Laden's driver would also likely be a trained killer. They seem to have been convinced that he was Morgan Freeman trying to take Osama to the Piggly Wiggly.
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