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Old 08-26-2008, 07:57 AM   #61
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dick cheney has a gay daughter right? so i guess he can't be a republican now can he?

you ignorance lies in how you talk about this vague republican "thing" as if it's f'ing satan and all that's wrong with everything, even though there a lot of republicans that aren't what you say they are.

i mean, i somehow doubt the republicans in chicago have any use for a confederate flag.

this ignorance is the mindless droning on about how evil a certain affiliation is with a blatant disregard to facts. you're speaking in absolutes, using strawmen, going over the top and reverting to name calling and some sort of gotcha game befitting a 12 year old.

i mean, you've got nothing but love for the dems, who apparently can do no wrong, and nothing but mindless consuming hate for a label that's not nearly as inclusive as you think.

as for greed, dems have plenty of pork barrel spending, vote to raise their salaries, and some conservative dems do vote for tax cuts for themselves, so i guess their also insanely greedy bastards too. and since you're a dem, i'll throw you in with them, since that seems to be the cool thing to do.

so, yeah, stop being so selfish and greedy :P

see why that doesn't work?
I agree with you on the first four paragraphs. I don't know though that saden is a Democrat though. I can't say for sure, but I seem to have remember him having some choice words for that party a few months back. I think he just wants Obama in office, more importantly he doesn't want McCain there. But I don't know that he's a card carrying member of the Dem Party
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:51 AM   #62
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This has got to be one of the very worst run Campaigns on both sides in recent memory, if ever.

I mean, you have Obama playing the race card on himself, trying to propose tax hikes on big oil, as well as the upper and middle classes. You have McCain who doesn't seem to be very interested in defending himself against the "Bush's third term" crap, suggesting a gas tax holiday as an economic breakthrough, and really making no clear attempt at all to balance the budget.

One of these guys is going to be running the country. I predicted that we would see a president worse than Bush in the near future, but I didn't think that day could possibly come this soon.

My vote is totally up for grabs right now. First guy to suggest an idea that might work gets it. Because right now, both campaigns are out there, just trying to prove they are the lesser of the two evils, and that should inspire confidence in exactly no one.
I'm not sure that's possible. If that happens we're in for a world of shit.
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Old 08-26-2008, 08:55 AM   #63
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I'm not sure that's possible. If that happens we're in for a world of shit.
People probably wouldn't have thought it possible after Buchanan, or Harding, or Hoover.

I think that these are actually two strong candidates though
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def. of Swiftboating = When the opposition finds and tells the truth about a lie you told, a counter-attack that cries "swiftboating" can be used (by the Democrats) to distract the issue and accuse the other party of lying when in reality, it was you who lied first.

It was a lame, whiny attempt at a cover-up when John Kerry cried about this, it's even more stupid now because there are no actual boats involved in Obama's lies.
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People probably wouldn't have thought it possible after Buchanan, or Harding, or Hoover.

I think that these are actually two strong candidates though
Wait, I thought the original quote was that we were expecting a worse President after Bush.

Lincoln followed Buchanan - Arguably the greatest President ever.

Coolidge followed Harding - While not a "great" President, he presided over a period of prosperity, and is generally considered a good President.

F.D.R. followed Hoover - Certainly a great President and maybe the only other one in the same class as Lincoln and Washington.

If either McCain or Obama is the next Lincoln, F.D.R. or even Coolidge, I will: 1) Sit in the upper deck of the Linc in full Redskins attire shouting "Eagles suck"; and 2) discount all evidence of global warming as Hell most assuredly had frozen over.
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While his father was working on a bankruptcy bill his son started doning some consulting work for one of the largest supporters and credit card companies who where pushing congress to pass the bill. Its a conflict of interest and his son's law firm was paid over $500,000. I agree with the bill that was passed but I was pointing out to Saden that Biden is just another Washington career insider running on a platform of change.
Your implication is that his son's consulting had something to do with his vote? The implication that the state of Delaware is home to enormous number of credit card companies and therefore he's in their pockets would have been more palpable.
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def. of Swiftboating = When the opposition finds and tells the truth about a lie you told, a counter-attack that cries "swiftboating" can be used (by the Democrats) to distract the issue and accuse the other party of lying when in reality, it was you who lied first.

It was a lame, whiny attempt at a cover-up when John Kerry cried about this, it's even more stupid now because there are no actual boats involved in Obama's lies.


Swiftboating = Swift Boat tactics...it is what John Corsi is doing.
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Your implication is that his son's consulting had something to do with his vote? The implication that the state of Delaware is home to enormous number of credit card companies and therefore he's in their pockets would have been more palpable.
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Swiftboating = Swift Boat tactics...it is what John Corsi is doing.
It's only a sinister plot when the other guy is doing it.
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:12 PM   #69
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dick cheney has a gay daughter right? so i guess he can't be a republican now can he?
No, but he's still a member of a party that believes his daughter is hell bound. A party that wants a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. It's like belonging to a party that believe you're child is not equal.

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you ignorance lies in how you talk about this vague republican "thing" as if it's f'ing satan and all that's wrong with everything, even though there a lot of republicans that aren't what you say they are.

i mean, i somehow doubt the republicans in chicago have any use for a confederate flag.
I'm talking party platform. It's still trash irrespective of whether some of the party members don't share the same view.


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this ignorance is the mindless droning on about how evil a certain affiliation is with a blatant disregard to facts. you're speaking in absolutes, using strawmen, going over the top and reverting to name calling and some sort of gotcha game befitting a 12 year old.
You keep telling me I'm ignorant and such but you don't tell me what the current Republican party offer. What there is to like about them.


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i mean, you've got nothing but love for the dems, who apparently can do no wrong, and nothing but mindless consuming hate for a label that's not nearly as inclusive as you think.
If you say so, but I tell you what, the Dems are certainly more inclusive than the other party.


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as for greed, dems have plenty of pork barrel spending, vote to raise their salaries, and some conservative dems do vote for tax cuts for themselves, so i guess their also insanely greedy bastards too. and since you're a dem, i'll throw you in with them, since that seems to be the cool thing to do.

so, yeah, stop being so selfish and greedy :P

see why that doesn't work?
The Blue Dogs are disgraceful. I don't really care for them or certain democrats. Are you happy? I do like the Democrats' platform though.
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def. of Swiftboating = When the opposition finds and tells the truth about a lie you told, a counter-attack that cries "swiftboating" can be used (by the Democrats) to distract the issue and accuse the other party of lying when in reality, it was you who lied first.

It was a lame, whiny attempt at a cover-up when John Kerry cried about this, it's even more stupid now because there are no actual boats involved in Obama's lies.
And what lie did John Kerry tell? Please do not offer links to Fox News articles.
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It's only a sinister plot when the other guy is doing it.
Give me facts and you have yourself the truth. Flexing your imagination is not the truth.
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def. of Swiftboating = When the opposition finds and tells the truth about a lie you told, a counter-attack that cries "swiftboating" can be used (by the Democrats) to distract the issue and accuse the other party of lying when in reality, it was you who lied first.

It was a lame, whiny attempt at a cover-up when John Kerry cried about this, it's even more stupid now because there are no actual boats involved in Obama's lies.
sometimes it seems like the G.O.P would rather bash their opponent, rather then discuss policy. im sure for the handful of vets the republicans trotted out saying Kerry wasn't this and wasn't that, the Dem's could trot out the same amount of vets to counter this. but why was his service to his country even an issue? did anyone care when Dick Cheney said he had more important things to do then to serve in the armed forces? i really don't care about this stuff. all i want is someone, anyone, that is competent enough to run this complex country we live in. eight years of a total diaster should have evreyone clamouring for solid leadership.
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:27 PM   #73
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I agree with you on the first four paragraphs. I don't know though that saden is a Democrat though. I can't say for sure, but I seem to have remember him having some choice words for that party a few months back. I think he just wants Obama in office, more importantly he doesn't want McCain there. But I don't know that he's a card carrying member of the Dem Party
saden1 doesn't care for the democratic party because he believes them to be a bunch of pussies. saden1 is no longer an Obama fan, in fact, he cut him off and stopped sending him money the day he voted for the FISA bill. saden1 hates lies and half truths. saden1 is an ethicist. saden1 doesn't like the Republican party one bit.
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sometimes it seems like the G.O.P would rather bash their opponent, rather then discuss policy. im sure for the handful of vets the republicans trotted out saying Kerry wasn't this and wasn't that, the Dem's could trot out the same amount of vets to counter this. but why was his service to his country even an issue? did anyone care when Dick Cheney said he had more important things to do then to serve in the armed forces? i really don't care about this stuff. all i want is someone, anyone, that is competent enough to run this complex country we live in. eight years of a total diaster should have evreyone clamouring for solid leadership.
Thats only because the Republican policy sucks so bad that they have to bash their opponent and descredit him or her. If they don't do that then they won't win any elections.

I agree to with the competency thing! I believe our President should be smart enough to know how many houses he owns!
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sometimes it seems like the G.O.P would rather bash their opponent, rather then discuss policy. im sure for the handful of vets the republicans trotted out saying Kerry wasn't this and wasn't that, the Dem's could trot out the same amount of vets to counter this. but why was his service to his country even an issue? did anyone care when Dick Cheney said he had more important things to do then to serve in the armed forces? i really don't care about this stuff. all i want is someone, anyone, that is competent enough to run this complex country we live in. eight years of a total diaster should have evreyone clamouring for solid leadership.

I believe you have that backwards.

McCain has offered economic plans, energy plans that involve drilling and alternative forms of energy, a plan to complete the war in Iraq without suddenly surrendering, immigration ideas and many others.

Obama has preached about "change" and how he's "the chosen one". Please tell us what the change will be.
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