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Old 08-29-2008, 12:25 PM   #31
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I wouldn't call it "nice" irony...

Well, then I'm unfair. I don't think we are ready as a country to have a woman leading us, and I AM a woman..
Wow, a woman who paints all women with a broad brush. Strange.

I never opposed women in power, it's just that Hillary Clinton is NOT a woman we want there.
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yeah, i'm not following that women generically bad for president logic either....
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Can you see Binladen taking her seriously? ... not that he takes anyone seriously, but don't you think a woman leading the US is the perfect situation in his eyes.. considering their beliefs about women? ...

Having a son, the last thing I want is a woman leading this country during a war with terrorists. I hope John boy is taking his vitamins.
Woman on woman hate. Can't we all just get along?!??!!
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McCain-Palin 2008: John McCain - Sarah Palin 2008
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Woman on woman hate. Can't we all just get along?!??!!
Woman on Woman hate = BAD

Woman on Woman Love = AWESOME.








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Reading these post the people I believe to be democratic from their prior and current post have made sexest and racest type remarks. Funny isn't that what they say consevatives do.
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Woman on woman hate. Can't we all just get along?!??!!
It must be the jealous catfight effect.
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You've got it wrong. It's that I don't think MEN are really ready for a woman to lead and the majority will not respect her. They might put on a good face, but behind her back there will be comments and words..etc. The magazine cover is a perfect example. I think it will not be good for the county over all becuase I don't think the county is ready....

OK, that's it.. I'm done..
Not a shot at you at all, just a comment: I haven't heard anything similar coming out of the African American community about not wanting a black president, the country's not ready etc... I'm not saying anything here, just an observation on the barriers being broken here and the commentary thereof.
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Reading these post the people I believe to be democratic from their prior and current post have made sexest and racest type remarks. Funny isn't that what they say consevatives do.
Yep. The Bush administration has put more Hispanics, Blacks and other minorities in HIGH-LEVEL cabinet positions and staff than the Clinton admin...yet Bush is still the racist and Clinton, who had an all-white cabinet is the one who represents minorities.

Aren't stereotypes great?
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You've got it wrong. It's that I don't think MEN are really ready for a woman to lead and the majority will not respect her. They might put on a good face, but behind her back there will be comments and words..etc. The magazine cover is a perfect example. I think it will not be good for the county over all becuase I don't think the county is ready....

OK, that's it.. I'm done..
Maybe you might need to reevaluate the guys you hang around. I don't have a problem with a women as Pres. or VP if they are the right person for the job and hold my values. I also like to listen to Barry Manalow but I'm not worried about my man hood.
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Reading these post the people I believe to be democratic from their prior and current post have made sexest and racest type remarks. Funny isn't that what they say consevatives do.
Whose posts are you referring to? Hess's?
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Margaret Thatcher is regarded as a foremost world leader and she went out of power 20 years ago.

I strongly believe that neither race nor gender should not play a role in who is president or vice-president. I also strongly believe that it does. In this case I think we are far more ready as a populous for a woman leader than a black leader. It's crap for sure but I do think it to be the case.

I like this pick. Reservedly though since I know so little of her. If she can reresent herself well against Biden then I think it is a great pick. Her core values fit in with waht many conservative detractors were uncomfortable with McCain. She's a young outside actually known more for leading than "organizing". My fears are that she hasn't been nearly as vetted as other candidates. What skeletons exist?

In that same vein though, I find the notion that "no one knows her" being a negative to be laughable.

We elect incumbents and outsiders for President in this country lately. It is very difficult for insiders to make headway.

Not since Nixon has a true insider been elected. Hell Ford almost lost his own primary and then got trounced by Carter.

It has gone:

Carter (governor)
Reagan (governor)
Bush I (vice-president incumbent)
Clinton (govenor)
Bush (govenor)

It is noteworthy that many of those Presidents ran against insiders too.

In fact I think one thing Obama has going for him in this is that he is so fresh and seen as an outsider. Repubs are doing the darndest to paint that as inexperience but for a good amount of people it actually is a positive.
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Because race is different from gender.
Discrimination is equally bad no matter what reason you hold it.
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I don't like McCain or Obama, but frankly I think McCain's VP selection is brilliant compared to Obama's.

Biden seems like nothing but more of the same Washington political garbage.

McCain has managed to solidify his base of evangelicals, pro-lifers and NRA members. Mock them all you want or disagree with them all you want, but you can't deny they make up a massive portion of the vote.

At the same time he's brought in someone young and fresh to combat his decidedly aged image. A pretty face doesn't hurt either. Again, you can disagree all you want, but my experience in marketing and advertising has taught me that a pretty face goes a long way in convincing an audience of a point.

Look how much Obama's youth and charisma have gotten him - McCain getting a dose of that when he's seriously lacking in that area helps tremendously.

I think two things are very interesting about this: assuming Nader doesn't make some kind of surprise end-around, whoever wins the election will make history. First black president or first female vice president any way you slice it. Fascinating.

Second, of the four (Obama, Biden, McCain, Palin), as far as I know Palin is the only one with actual experience running and administrating a government. The other three are Senators and, as far as I know, never spent any time actually running a local or state government.

Once again this race gets very, very interesting. Either way we're watching history in the making.
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Whose posts are you referring to? Hess's?
I'm not going to name each peoson but if you read the post on this thread its not hard to figure out. I'm not sure if Hess is a Dem because I cannot rember her post from prior threads to know. If I had to guess I'd lean that way.
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