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Old 08-31-2008, 07:54 AM   #1
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With Gustav bearing down on the New Orleans area just three years after Katrina left it in near-ruins, I can't help but think it may be time to forget about trying to rebuild that place if Gustav does the same damage that Katrina did.

While attempts at slowing global warming are noble and certainly must be heeded, any such attempts will do just that, slow global warming. It's impossibly to stop it entirely.

As the warming trend continues these storms will only become more frequent. It seems like some especially bad luck that two storms would hit poor New Orleans within three years, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to expect it would happen every 5-10 years.

Why keep rebuilding an area below sea level that lies in the path of hurricanes so often? Pray for those people, but it's time to let New Orleans - the city - fade away.
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:57 AM   #2
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I'm not sure it's fair to assume that everyone has the means to evacuate or have a place to evacuate to. That was the problem the first time around.
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Old 08-31-2008, 02:21 PM   #3
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Might want to clear Florida and tornado country too. Yes, people should pickup and move whenever nature strikes their area twice.
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Old 08-31-2008, 02:21 PM   #4
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This time round, NO ONE has an excuse not to evacuate. This is probably as prepared and organized as you're going to see a city evacuation, given the Katrina fiasco.

As for having a city below sea level surrounded by the Mississippi river and Lake Ponchartrain (sp?) in a major hurricane zone, yeah, it's never been that great an idea. Doubt it's going anywhere, though.
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Old 08-31-2008, 04:10 PM   #5
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The city is providing transportation for people with needs and without transportation. If I heard correctly they have shelters away from the coast where they will take people and I don't think it will be the Saints stadium.LOL
including their pets!
at no cost!
it doesn't get any better.....i wonder if they will still try to cap the rescue helicopters?
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Old 08-31-2008, 07:56 PM   #6
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Just recently they said on CNN that they estimate 90% of N.O. has evacuated. I'd call that fairly successful given some people's reluctance to leave no matter what. Honestly, right or wrong, if I lived there I'd feel that I could weather any storm and would probably choose to stay. I still have that 18-year old "I'm indestructible" confidence/stupidity.
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Old 08-31-2008, 11:00 PM   #7
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Gustov weakens a bit, GOD I hope it continues to weaken! This is a scary SOB! Great news on the people are taking this seriously and evacuating!

WAVY TV 10 : Virginia and North Carolina News -Gustav weakens a little, but still a powerful storm
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Gustov makes landfall.

Water clears levees as Gustav makes Louisiana landfall - CNN.com
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Old 09-02-2008, 07:12 AM   #9
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Too bad it only took an epic disaster for everyone to get their shit together.
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Might want to clear Florida and tornado country too. Yes, people should pickup and move whenever nature strikes their area twice.
The problem is that New Orleans is the Mississippi's ocean (okay Gulf) Port. Throw in the local oil and sugar industries and it is a very rich region. Nature make it dangerous, but nature also made it wealthy. This risk/reward issue is going to keep bringing people back.
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Old 09-02-2008, 11:15 AM   #11
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the old levies were never meant to handle 4s and 5s, and the "new" ones are still being built, and its f'ing ridiculous expensive. they really should leave the port and move the town a few miles into higher ground.
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Old 09-02-2008, 01:33 PM   #12
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I hope everyone is safe and dry somewhere.

I also hope they've learned their lesson down there and realize that living in a city shaped like a toilet bowl or bathtub DOES NOT WORK and put their rebuilding money and effort to better use elsewhere in a safer place to live. If a Cat 2/3 can flood the city, they better realize that it is impossible to be safe there.
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Old 09-03-2008, 09:18 AM   #13
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Well I cut on the News tonight and what do I see. A bunch of people bitching and complaining about how goverment is taking care of them and where they are staying. They don't say thank you for helping me out of NO but just bitching about everything and are saying it just as bad three years later.
You do realize that people are still living in those FEMA trailers in NO. I think a lot of those people have good reason to still be ticked off 3 years later as not much has changed for them.
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Old 09-03-2008, 09:32 AM   #14
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You do realize that people are still living in those FEMA trailers in NO. I think a lot of those people have good reason to still be ticked off 3 years later as not much has changed for them.
Fuck that, the government (ie the taxpayer) is not responsible for helping people living in a coastal area, below sea level, who didn't have flood insurance. Seriously, how retarded is that?

Why do they deserve better than a FEMA trailer?? A FEMA trailer is shelter isn't it? What, are we supposed to get them into a 3 bedroom condo??

Shelter, food, and water. That's all the taxpayer is morally obligated to provide. Anything beyond that is an excessive handout.
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Fuck that, the government (ie the taxpayer) is not responsible for helping people living in a coastal area, below sea level, who didn't have flood insurance. Seriously, how retarded is that?

Why do they deserve better than a FEMA trailer?? A FEMA trailer is shelter isn't it? What, are we supposed to get them into a 3 bedroom condo??

Shelter, food, and water. That's all the taxpayer is morally obligated to provide. Anything beyond that is an excessive handout.

It's got nothing to do with giving them a handout, but doesn't the gov't have to bear a large part of the blame for what happened in the first place? Katrina was a classic cluster F from the start and 3 years later NO is still a mess. So the gov't dropping off some basic shelter absolves them of any continued responsibility? "Hey everyone here are some lovely trailers, have fun rebuilding your city. Sorry about those shitty levees we knew would crumble eventually from a big enough storm. See ya in 3 years!"
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