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View Poll Results: If the election was held today who would you vote for?
McCain 24 44.44%
Obama 30 55.56%
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:33 AM   #46
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It never seems to occurr to people that foreigners don't really want America to succeed. It's like asking me who the Cowboys should hire as their HC. I'd say, "Les Steckel!" or "Gerry Faust!" The difference is, of course, that not even Cowboy fans are stupid enough to make the opinion of an oppossing or disinterested party an argument in favor of anyone.

Let's everyone finish these two sentences:

"If Europeans are so good at judging political leaders, then how come..."

and

"The reason that Hamas wants Baraq Obama to be President is..."
I have to disagree. People are people no matter the country, and I happen to think most are honest.

If you were following Britain's election for Prime Minister, and you participated in a similar poll, would you vote for who you think is worst?
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Old 09-11-2008, 12:01 PM   #47
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I have to disagree. People are people no matter the country, and I happen to think most are honest.

If you were following Britain's election for Prime Minister, and you participated in a similar poll, would you vote for who you think is worst?

Oh really? Here I was thinking the only people that have America's best interest at heart are Republicans and the Republican party.
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Old 09-11-2008, 12:09 PM   #48
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Let's do France then. BTW the British PM sorta endorsed Obama.
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Old 09-11-2008, 12:34 PM   #49
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Britian is a bad choice because they are on our side and they want us to be as successful as they and the only real devide was the war but that was the same here. Now lets use another one like Iran. Would you want them to have a strong leader which is hard for us to deal with or a weak leader who is a push over?
I know what you're saying, it just doesn't discredit the poll and/or Obama. Most of the countries polled are our allies, so it's not like our enemies are skewing the poll. In fact, Russia and China were included in the poll (not Iran), and they both prefer Obama over McCain (although the majority voted "No Difference" in Russia).

So basically, all of our allies (the people who have a vested interest in our country) want Obama.

Bottom line, no country polled favored McCain over Obama. Here's the list of countries polled:

Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, Egypt, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Italy, Kenya, Lebanon, Mexico, Nigeria, Panama, the Philippines, Poland, Russia, Singapore, Turkey, the UAE and the UK.

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Old 09-11-2008, 02:43 PM   #50
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I hope Bill is right:

The Associated Press: Bill Clinton predicts Obama will win 'handily'
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Old 09-11-2008, 03:28 PM   #51
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Barack H. Obama
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Old 09-11-2008, 03:35 PM   #52
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I think the real question is whether or not all of the Obama supporters actually turn up to vote. I have this idea of all of these college kids being all psyched for Obama and none of them actually putting down the joint long enough to hit the polls. Obama's supporters seem to be a louder, more fervent sort but I'm not sure that is going to translate into a victory. It will definitely be interesting...




EDIT- no insult to Obama supporters, just dealing in stereotypes to make a point. I think if any politician is counting on a "youth movement" to get them elected, they're grasping at straws in this country.
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Hey so if he wins

A) Will you be joining his administration full time
B) Can you get him to do a chat with us
C) Should we start addressing you as Secretary of 12thMan
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I believe the polling booth is rigged by Matty because everytime I clicked McCain it switched my vote to Obama.
It's unnatural that McCain even gets that many votes.

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Hey so if he wins

A) Will you be joining his administration full time
B) Can you get him to do a chat with us
C) Should we start addressing you as Secretary of 12thMan
A) Is well underway. Hours suck though.
B) Obama is really a closet Redskins fan. He especially envies Clinton Portis' cool pressers. So a Warpath chat is likely
C) Naw, you guys can keep calling me 12th. Everybody except 70Chip, of course.
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I think the real question is whether or not all of the Obama supporters actually turn up to vote. I have this idea of all of these college kids being all psyched for Obama and none of them actually putting down the joint long enough to hit the polls. Obama's supporters seem to be a louder, more fervent sort but I'm not sure that is going to translate into a victory. It will definitely be interesting...




EDIT- no insult to Obama supporters, just dealing in stereotypes to make a point. I think if any politician is counting on a "youth movement" to get them elected, they're grasping at straws in this country.
It's a good question and I really hope that young voters get out there and vote. Clinton the first time around did a great job at capturing the young vote and it paid off at the polls. I see a lot of similarities between '92 and today.
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I think the real question is whether or not all of the Obama supporters actually turn up to vote. I have this idea of all of these college kids being all psyched for Obama and none of them actually putting down the joint long enough to hit the polls. Obama's supporters seem to be a louder, more fervent sort but I'm not sure that is going to translate into a victory. It will definitely be interesting...




EDIT- no insult to Obama supporters, just dealing in stereotypes to make a point. I think if any politician is counting on a "youth movement" to get them elected, they're grasping at straws in this country.
Turn out has always been a problem. I mean there are ~72 million registered Democrats and ~55 million registered Republicans and ~42 million independents registered. It's always about turn out which is why you'll never see Republicans agree to moving election day to a weekend instead of the first Tuesday of November.

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Old 09-11-2008, 04:04 PM   #58
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I don't think there's any reason to believe that voters on either side won't turn out. The electorate has never been more energized. The Dems had record turnouts in nearly every Primary contest, and I think it will continue during the General.

I must say, Palin has energized the GOP base in a way that no one -- and I mean no one could have possibly imagined. And I think they will see a record turnout on their side as well.
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I don't think there's any reason to believe that voters on either side won't turn out. The electorate has never been more energized. The Dems had record turnouts in nearly every Primary contest, and I think it will continue during the General.

I must say, Palin has energized the GOP base in a way that no one -- and I mean no one could have possibly imagined. And I think they will see a record turnout on their side as well.
i don't know man, humans are a pathetically lazy and apathetic species on average. It's one thing to get juiced up for a convention or a speech or whatever other social event, not so much for the solitary drive down to the local voting station. Now if we ever get our shit together and institute online voting, then you'll see much improved turnout.
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i don't know man, humans are a pathetically lazy and apathetic species on average. It's one thing to get juiced up for a convention or a speech or whatever other social event, not so much for the solitary drive down to the local voting station. Now if we ever get our shit together and institute online voting, then you'll see much improved turnout.
You're right, dude. But there's something about this year -- disagree with the candidates all you want, but people are engaged and eager to vote. Both sides are stepping up their ground efforts to get people to the polls. It's going to be crazy on Nov. 4th.

I would like to see us go to a system similiar to that of Oregon. After this election, I think we're going to see some changes in that direction.
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