If the election was held today

Mattyk · 09-11-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

I think the real question is whether or not all of the Obama supporters actually turn up to vote. I have this idea of all of these college kids being all psyched for Obama and none of them actually putting down the joint long enough to hit the polls. Obama's supporters seem to be a louder, more fervent sort but I'm not sure that is going to translate into a victory. It will definitely be interesting...

EDIT- no insult to Obama supporters, just dealing in stereotypes to make a point. I think if any politician is counting on a "youth movement" to get them elected, they're grasping at straws in this country.

It's a good question and I really hope that young voters get out there and vote. Clinton the first time around did a great job at capturing the young vote and it paid off at the polls. I see a lot of similarities between '92 and today.

saden1 · 09-11-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

I think the real question is whether or not all of the Obama supporters actually turn up to vote. I have this idea of all of these college kids being all psyched for Obama and none of them actually putting down the joint long enough to hit the polls. Obama's supporters seem to be a louder, more fervent sort but I'm not sure that is going to translate into a victory. It will definitely be interesting...

EDIT- no insult to Obama supporters, just dealing in stereotypes to make a point. I think if any politician is counting on a "youth movement" to get them elected, they're grasping at straws in this country.

Turn out has always been a problem. I mean there are ~72 million registered Democrats and ~55 million registered Republicans and ~42 million independents registered. It's always about turn out which is why you'll never see Republicans agree to moving election day to a weekend instead of the first Tuesday of November.

12thMan · 09-11-2008, 04:04 PM

I don't think there's any reason to believe that voters on either side won't turn out. The electorate has never been more energized. The Dems had record turnouts in nearly every Primary contest, and I think it will continue during the General.

I must say, Palin has energized the GOP base in a way that no one -- and I mean no one could have possibly imagined. And I think they will see a record turnout on their side as well.

BleedBurgundy · 09-11-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I don't think there's any reason to believe that voters on either side won't turn out. The electorate has never been more energized. The Dems had record turnouts in nearly every Primary contest, and I think it will continue during the General.

I must say, Palin has energized the GOP base in a way that no one -- and I mean no one could have possibly imagined. And I think they will see a record turnout on their side as well.

i don't know man, humans are a pathetically lazy and apathetic species on average. It's one thing to get juiced up for a convention or a speech or whatever other social event, not so much for the solitary drive down to the local voting station. Now if we ever get our shit together and institute online voting, then you'll see much improved turnout.

12thMan · 09-11-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

i don't know man, humans are a pathetically lazy and apathetic species on average. It's one thing to get juiced up for a convention or a speech or whatever other social event, not so much for the solitary drive down to the local voting station. Now if we ever get our shit together and institute online voting, then you'll see much improved turnout.

You're right, dude. But there's something about this year -- disagree with the candidates all you want, but people are engaged and eager to vote. Both sides are stepping up their ground efforts to get people to the polls. It's going to be crazy on Nov. 4th.

I would like to see us go to a system similiar to that of Oregon. After this election, I think we're going to see some changes in that direction.

Mattyk · 09-11-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I don't think there's any reason to believe that voters on either side won't turn out. The electorate has never been more energized. The Dems had record turnouts in nearly every Primary contest, and I think it will continue during the General.

I must say, Palin has energized the GOP base in a way that no one -- and I mean no one could have possibly imagined. And I think they will see a record turnout on their side as well.

I agree, I think the primary was a preview of what's going to happen in November, and don't forget about how the Dems swept the 2006 general elections, I think that was quite the statement as well. But until November rolls around I'm cautiously optimistic.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 09-11-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's a good question and I really hope that young voters get out there and vote. Clinton the first time around did a great job at capturing the young vote and it paid off at the polls. I see a lot of similarities between '92 and today.

I heard this on Fox radio yesterday, don't remember the source. Of new voters, those registered within the last 2 years were split 47% Obama / 44% McCain. I would've expected a bigger advantage to Obama here. Normally new voters are younger and lean more Dem. (They usually wisen up once they get decent paying jobs and look at their taxes)

Slingin Sammy 33 · 09-11-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Oh really? Here I was thinking the only people that have America's best interest at heart are Republicans and the Republican party.

Funny, I was thinking the same thing.

NM Redskin · 09-11-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Normally new voters are younger and lean more Dem. (They usually wisen up once they get decent paying jobs and look at their taxes)

Most decent paying jobs are under 100 grand, and Obama is lowering taxes for most Americans. More than McCain. Obama is raising taxes for the super rich, over 600k.

Obama and McCain Tax Proposals - washingtonpost.com

GTripp0012 · 09-11-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Now if we ever get our shit together and institute online voting, then you'll see much improved turnout.

It's hard to believe this could ever get passed because the Republicans would be so opposed to it.

And yes, if online voting got passed, I would totally take advantage of it, but it would be a huge disadvantage for the Republicans, and there's that part of me that still thinks that people too lazy to get to a polling place during voting hours probably shouldn't be allowed to have a vote counted.

jsarno · 09-11-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

It's unnatural that McCain even gets that many votes.

I'm actually happy to see as many votes as there is for McCain. We all know the DC area is mainly dems...so mccain to be making this good a showing, that's a good sign for the election. (of course I understand this is a world wide website, but we all know the majority of people live in or around the DC area.)

Hog1 · 09-11-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I'm voting against Saden.

Not to worry First, I took the bullet for you and "canceled out" Saden.

saden1 · 09-11-2008, 08:45 PM

You can't cancel out a baller, you can only hope to contain him.

70Chip · 09-11-2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

A) Is well underway. Hours suck though.
B) Obama is really a closet Redskins fan. He especially envies Clinton Portis' cool pressers. So a Warpath chat is likely
C) Naw, you guys can keep calling me 12th. Everybody except 70Chip, of course.

What do I call you?

KLHJ2 · 09-12-2008, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But we're likely to have a Democratic congress, no? So should we then have a Republican President?

Statistically a Dem pres is always best for the economy. I just threw that out ther so that you guys know what to do during the elections 2 years from now, (Put some Reps. in Congress!) But you are correct in your thinking. You want a Dem Congress if you have a Rep President.

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12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,363	Re: If the election was held today I don't think there's any reason to believe that voters on either side won't turn out. The electorate has never been more energized. The Dems had record turnouts in nearly every Primary contest, and I think it will continue during the General. I must say, Palin has energized the GOP base in a way that no one -- and I mean no one could have possibly imagined. And I think they will see a record turnout on their side as well.

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