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Old 09-25-2008, 12:50 AM   #46
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Theres a lot of details in this case that I will not discuss on this forum but I thought I would shed some general light on what happened. These silly comments I see from Giantone, fortunately I don't put much value into as they are totally uninformed and ignorant opinions. I welcome both sides of the debate but when people start making up stuff that sways public opinion, I have an issue with that. My intentions have been clear from the start, I wanted to paint a tribute to Sean it was never a business descision to do this. I am not out to impress everybody with my art and know that I never will impress everybody, Chief Taylor appreciated this painting and thats who counts the most in my books.
I don't see how Giantone's posts are uninformed and ignorant though.
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:15 AM   #47
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"..........add in $5,000 per print that you wanted Santana Moss to pay and you're looking at making $35,000 + dollars on a man's death ,that you have no rights to."

This here is an uniformed comment, totally bogus and trying to guess how long a painting takes someone is also an uninformed and ignorant statement, some of us uneducated painters just take a bit longer.
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:18 AM   #48
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"..........add in $5,000 per print that you wanted Santana Moss to pay and you're looking at making $35,000 + dollars on a man's death ,that you have no rights to."

This here is an uniformed comment, totally bogus and trying to guess how long a painting takes someone is also an uninformed and ignorant statement, some of us uneducated painters just take a bit longer.
Fair enough. I probably missed it, but if you don't mind my asking what became of the other paintings you did (such as Steve Irwin) and why do you do it?
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:24 AM   #49
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Actually Celebrities are about 10 percent of my work, they just got the most attention. The Steve Irwin painting is at the house of Terri Irwin. I grew up in the same town as Steve Irwin on the Sunshine Coast so that was a personal one. About 3 years ago I got to paint Red Auerbach from the Celtics and got to meet him at his house when we delivered the painting, now he was a character it was great to hear some of his stories.
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:28 AM   #50
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Pet Portraits by Jason Swain
I meant to post my website, it will show you some other work just so people know I do other stuff as well. If you go to Youtube you can see a bunch of other paintings and a couple of sculptures I did with a chainsaw.
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Theres a lot of details in this case that I will not discuss on this forum but I thought I would shed some general light on what happened. These silly comments I see from Giantone, fortunately I don't put much value into as they are totally uninformed and ignorant opinions. I welcome both sides of the debate but when people start making up stuff that sways public opinion, I have an issue with that. My intentions have been clear from the start, I wanted to paint a tribute to Sean it was never a business descision to do this. I am not out to impress everybody with my art and know that I never will impress everybody, Chief Taylor appreciated this painting and thats who counts the most in my books.
First let me set something straight ...My daughter ....I asked her for her opinion..."I asked her" ....get it.As for my opinions ...no different then yours.....as we all have them.You say your not out to impress yet you try to make $20 grand ....and then 5000 per print.Hell I can get a # Norman Rockewell print for $1500 and I think he's a bit better than you.
Your painting is nice and if you really meant it as a tribute to Sean great I have no problems with that,it's the value your putting on and what you think the Skins should do,tell me there must be at least 15 more fans out there that are Skins fans and painters...what should the Skins do if everyone paints a picture of Sean....buy all of them?
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"..........add in $5,000 per print that you wanted Santana Moss to pay and you're looking at making $35,000 + dollars on a man's death ,that you have no rights to."

This here is an uniformed comment, totally bogus and trying to guess how long a painting takes someone is also an uninformed and ignorant statement, some of us uneducated painters just take a bit longer.

If you use the link I posted you will see were the info came from.



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Old 09-25-2008, 07:05 AM   #53
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Obviously Giantone, you're just never going to get it, you're still make silly statements and are coming off as some sort of disgruntled artsit. I think this is the last response you'll get from me as it seems like you've made your mind up what direction you want to take, so no sense trying to put a square peg in a round hole. Get over it and move on with your life.
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Obviously Giantone, you're just never going to get it, you're still make silly statements and are coming off as some sort of disgruntled artsit. I think this is the last response you'll get from me as it seems like you've made your mind up what direction you want to take, so no sense trying to put a square peg in a round hole. Get over it and move on with your life.
From the article that you posted "Giantone"

But Jason Swain, who painted it as a tribute, can't sell it. The Kensington artist, who specializes in portraits, planned to sell the painting for $20,000 and donate $5,000 to Children's Hospital. He said the Redskins' management saw it on exhibit and liked it.

Read the article that I posted from the Washington Post. The deal with Santana Moss is a different issue then what is written above. Both the Redskins and Santana Moss approached him, not the other way around.

The main issue here, is that they had "no" problem with the logos until he said they couldn't have it for free.

You have been Perpetrating lies with your post that contain the wrong information, and by doing so you have slandered the artist. The facts are the facts. Read the articles and the post that Jason Swain put up explaining the circumstances surrounding the Portrait. He has been honest and forthcoming in this matter....the same cannot be said about the Redskins.
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Old 09-25-2008, 07:20 AM   #55
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I suggest that all you doubting Thomas's go over to you tube,and see for yourselves, type in Jason Swain in the video search. You will find his channel. It is loaded with a lot of his beautiful art, including a video of the Sean Taylor portrait, and some fantastic wood carvings. And more can be found on his website.
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I suggest that all you doubting Thomas's go over to you tube,and see for yourselves, type in Jason Swain in the video search. You will find his channel. It is loaded with a lot of his beautiful art, including a video of the Sean Taylor portrait, and some fantastic wood carvings. And more can be found on his website.
I'm curious what your association with swainy is? Since joining this site, this is the only thread you've posted in and you seem to be very passionate about this discussion.

It's no big deal. I was just wondering if there was some sort of relationship there.
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Hey Giantone, the Redskins are still selling Sean Taylor jerseys. What do you think about that?
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Hey Giantone, the Redskins are still selling Sean Taylor jerseys. What do you think about that?

From the Redskins Website:

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All profits from the sale of Sean Taylor jerseys and other merchandise at Official Redskins Stores and the Redskins Online Store will be contributed to the fund. Taylor’s No. 21 jerseys, tee-shirts, hats, memorial ribbon car magnets, and rally towels distributed at the Redskins-Bills game are available.
So they aren't profiting from the sale of those items one bit.

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I'm curious what your association with swainy is? Since joining this site, this is the only thread you've posted in and you seem to be very passionate about this discussion.

It's no big deal. I was just wondering if there was some sort of relationship there.
There definitely is.
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There definitely is.
I find it disheartening, that most people in this day and age would never consider that some one is passionate about something, and speaks out, just because they feel it is the right thing to do, if they have information that can help people understand something better, whether it be a friend, or someone you know of. I considered not answering your question, but silence isn't always golden, it leaves people wondering and thinking you didn't answer because you are hiding something.

Let's say that I am a friend, or family...be honest when answering this.
Would it have you saying; "That explains the passion and persistence of the post"? Most people (and it is the nature of most) to immediately discount the motive as anything other then favoritism. I have nothing to offer up, other then my word that it doesn't matter what my relationship is with someone, I pick my battles very carefully, I only engage when I believe in someone or something, based on what I know, or whole heartily believe to be true.

I have been a longtime admirer of his artwork. Having had the opportunity to see the Sean Taylor portrait, and keeping up with the news, yes I am passionate about this discussion. You will also note that I have directed my post at someone who seems intent, on bashing the painting and the artist…someone who has never seen the portrait except in a poor internet copy, and who has not (and the postings make it obvious) read the newspaper articles in their entirety, and is posting ˝ truths and at times lies.

Could it be that I would be posting on other threads after the heat on this one dissipated?

I have only posted a few times. Would it make you or anyone else here more
comfortable if I made this my last post? If so, I will not be back,
allowing more time for other sites I belong to, that are more comfortable
with the fact that I do become passionate when discussing subjects I know
about, when I see someone who doesn’t.

I don't know if I have quenched your curiosity, but since it is no big deal...

P.S I live a long way from Jason Swain, and I can honestly say that I haven't had the pleasure of meeting him in person. I hope to someday though.
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