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Old 10-22-2008, 04:48 PM   #16
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The clothes and the cost is not entirely the point, but rather the context in which Palin and the GOP have portrayed her. That being a small town Mayor from Wassilla, who connects with and is in touch with Joe Six Pack and hardworking, pro-Americans as she puts it. That's the point. We're fussing over the dollar amount, when it's the principle that I would be concerned with. No one really gave a shit when Jackie Kennedy, Cindy McCain, Teresa Heinz-Kerry, or anyone else who spent a gazillion dollars on clothes. Because they didn't present themselves as common and in touch with the average Joe. They never pretended to understand the financial struggles of small town America. They were people of means and didn't apologize for it. People respected that, even if they didn't agree with it. So this smacks of hypocrisy as far as Palin's critics are concerned.

Moreover, and to take all of this a step further, the GOP has tried to paint Barack as an elitist and out of touch, among other things. So there is a huge disconnect between who they say they are, and the type of campaign they're actually running.

Both sides are and have been less than perfect during this election. I'm sure Barack spends a pretty penny on his suits, but he does make decent money in the Senate and has two number one best sellers to show for it. And still, he leads a fairly modest lifestyle. But I digress.
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Old 10-22-2008, 04:56 PM   #17
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I take issue with McCain saying one thing and doing something entirely different. Honestly FD, is he senile or just a liar? He seems to double talk a lot. Does that concern you at all?
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:55 PM   #18
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Well it seems by your link provided that Obama also says McCain has not taken any earmarks.
The Obama campaign points out that although McCain hasn't asked for earmarks, his running mate hardly has room to talk.

Yes Obama has never changed his mind or Flip Floped lie is the word you like.
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I didn't say anything about Obama, I asked how you felt about McCain saying one thing and doing the complete opposite. Sometimes he changes his tune from one day to the next, it just seems bizarre.

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Old 10-22-2008, 09:09 PM   #19
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Just watch the clip when you can, seems like McCain can't even remember what his stances are on things. He literally goes back and forth from one minute to another at times.
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:44 PM   #20
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Well, you avoided my original point right from the start and jumped right into this earmark bs, so fair is fair.

So who is the elitist here?

Obama in his worn out soled shoes




Or Miss Hockey Mom/Joe Six-Pack in her $2,500 Valentino jacket?



I'm sure Joe the Plumber can really relate to blowing through $150,000 on clothes and makeup when the average American household spends less than $2k on clothes per year.
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:33 AM   #21
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Ding ding ding, round one Matty!

But for real, where did you get that pic of his shoes?
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:49 AM   #22
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Whatever Matty, Bill Clinton has expensive suits! And don't get me started on Al "I invented the Italian loafer" Gore! And the earmarks, don't forget the earmarks!

Right back at you. Hope you aren't sweating from the heat I'm bringing to your door, booyah!
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seems excessive... and she also put family expenses as "business" costs while in office in alaska (non work related trips, food, etc)... the 123$mill for a worthless bridge that she said she wouldn't build (AFTER the news media got hold of it, not before) and she kept that money for the state.

her husband was in the alaskan independence party, her witchdoctor pastor... the insane lies about obama...

no offense, but for a "maverick reformer" she seems VERY self serving and morally grey.

edit: alaska independence thing was from 1986, so that's a completely moot point in my eyes (too long ago). sorry.
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Old 10-23-2008, 07:37 AM   #24
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Ding ding ding, round one Matty!

But for real, where did you get that pic of his shoes?
I can't take credit for it, I saw it on MSNBC last night
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It's not the dollar amount that I'm taking issue with, it's the double standard of accusing Obama of being an elitist while portraying yourself as being an advocate for the average American, then blowing an insane amount of money on a wardrobe. It just makes no sense to me, but then again the entire McCain campaign hasn't made much sense either. Every week they throw a new piece of shit against the wall to see if it will stick, and usually it's something they are already guilty of themselves. It's comical really.
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Old 10-23-2008, 11:44 AM   #27
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Re: $150G From GOP For Fashions For Palins?

they have a blank check with a limited spending window unless they win the election then they are filthy rich
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Old 10-23-2008, 11:50 AM   #28
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politics is where the money is . how did obama raise 150 million in one month sounds kind of fishy to me. who gave him that kind of money arabs?chinese?
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Old 10-23-2008, 11:57 AM   #29
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You did not think Gore had a double standard when he was asking for everyone to cut back on energy use while he was using all that energy for his homes and jet. Wasn't he being an advocate for being Green while he was out burning up all that energy?

Matty's quote about Gore and his double standard:

"I'm more concerned about the message vs. the messenger, it's important to keep this issue at the forefront:"

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"Ugh just forget about who is saying it, that's not what's important"

The point is you did not care that Gore lived by double standards but now for some reason it very important to you that some how Palin is living by double standards. I would also bet you money that Palin is not out buying most of this stuff because she would not have the time to do so and its not tax payers money. I just cannot believe how the left is so concerned over $150,000 but while Obama says he wants to reduce spending has asked over and over again for pork projects to the tune of over 900 mil. That my friend is a double standard one that the tax payers are paying. I also finaly watched your clip and it was not very good. So no that does not concern me.
You found nothing odd about him going back and forth on gay marriage from literally one minute to the next? I support it, now I don't, now I do, now I don't. Wow.

You totally missed my point on Gore, then and now, but whatever.
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Re: $150G From GOP For Fashions For Palins?

about the money, i really don't see a problem with Palin getting outfitted for the potential job. would people rather she paraded around in wal- mart stuff? but, im sure there are people around here that were screaming about Bill Clinton's $500.00 hair cut...
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