$150G From GOP For Fashions For Palins?

firstdown · 10-23-2008, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Well, you avoided my original point right from the start and jumped right into this earmark bs, so fair is fair.

So who is the elitist here?

Obama in his worn out soled shoes

Or Miss Hockey Mom/Joe Six-Pack in her $2,500 Valentino jacket?

I'm sure Joe the Plumber can really relate to blowing through $150,000 on clothes and makeup when the average American household spends less than $2k on clothes per year.

Well I do find it funny you keep avoiding the question of his pork spending and Obama's request for over 900 million in TAX PAYERS money and keep jumping back to either McCain changing his mind or Palin's none tax payers money for her and her famlies clothing. 900 million in tax payers v/s 150 grand in GOP money is a hugh difference. This comes from a man who now says he wants to cut the budget but his prior actions says he has never tried to cut spending but rather he increased spending with his over 230 million in pork projects. If he had all his pork passed that number would grow to over 900 million and thats just in the few years he has been in office. How about Palin in her $2,500 suit (paid for by the GOP) or Obama's 3 million projector? I think I'll go with the person who is not waisting the tax payers money.

Mattyk · 10-23-2008, 10:07 AM

It's not the dollar amount that I'm taking issue with, it's the double standard of accusing Obama of being an elitist while portraying yourself as being an advocate for the average American, then blowing an insane amount of money on a wardrobe. It just makes no sense to me, but then again the entire McCain campaign hasn't made much sense either. Every week they throw a new piece of shit against the wall to see if it will stick, and usually it's something they are already guilty of themselves. It's comical really.

SmootSmack · 10-23-2008, 11:02 AM

What are the candidates hiding? - Kenneth P. Vogel - Politico.com

firstdown · 10-23-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's not the dollar amount that I'm taking issue with, it's the double standard of accusing Obama of being an elitist while portraying yourself as being an advocate for the average American, then blowing an insane amount of money on a wardrobe. It just makes no sense to me, but then again the entire McCain campaign hasn't made much sense either. Every week they throw a new piece of shit against the wall to see if it will stick, and usually it's something they are already guilty of themselves. It's comical really.

You did not think Gore had a double standard when he was asking for everyone to cut back on energy use while he was using all that energy for his homes and jet. Wasn't he being an advocate for being Green while he was out burning up all that energy?

Matty's quote about Gore and his double standard:

"I'm more concerned about the message vs. the messenger, it's important to keep this issue at the forefront:"

And

"Ugh just forget about who is saying it, that's not what's important"

The point is you did not care that Gore lived by double standards but now for some reason it very important to you that some how Palin is living by double standards. I would also bet you money that Palin is not out buying most of this stuff because she would not have the time to do so and its not tax payers money. I just cannot believe how the left is so concerned over $150,000 but while Obama says he wants to reduce spending has asked over and over again for pork projects to the tune of over 900 mil. That my friend is a double standard one that the tax payers are paying. I also finaly watched your clip and it was not very good. So no that does not concern me.

redskinjim · 10-23-2008, 11:44 AM

they have a blank check with a limited spending window unless they win the election then they are filthy rich

redskinjim · 10-23-2008, 11:50 AM

politics is where the money is . how did obama raise 150 million in one month sounds kind of fishy to me. who gave him that kind of money arabs?chinese?

Mattyk · 10-23-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

You did not think Gore had a double standard when he was asking for everyone to cut back on energy use while he was using all that energy for his homes and jet. Wasn't he being an advocate for being Green while he was out burning up all that energy?

Matty's quote about Gore and his double standard:

"I'm more concerned about the message vs. the messenger, it's important to keep this issue at the forefront:"

And

"Ugh just forget about who is saying it, that's not what's important"

The point is you did not care that Gore lived by double standards but now for some reason it very important to you that some how Palin is living by double standards. I would also bet you money that Palin is not out buying most of this stuff because she would not have the time to do so and its not tax payers money. I just cannot believe how the left is so concerned over $150,000 but while Obama says he wants to reduce spending has asked over and over again for pork projects to the tune of over 900 mil. That my friend is a double standard one that the tax payers are paying. I also finaly watched your clip and it was not very good. So no that does not concern me.

You found nothing odd about him going back and forth on gay marriage from literally one minute to the next? I support it, now I don't, now I do, now I don't. Wow.

You totally missed my point on Gore, then and now, but whatever.

firstdown · 10-23-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You found nothing odd about him going back and forth on gay marriage from literally one minute to the next? I support it, now I don't, now I do, now I don't. Wow.

You totally missed my point on Gore, then and now, but whatever.

Well if I'm correct he states he is against it but thinks its a state issue. Those clips can cut off what ever they don't want you to hear and I don't think gay marriage is the big issue Americans face today. I did not miss the point about Gore but I did notice your double standard. You still have not answered the question I have asked now about 5 time about Obama's pork spend and all the pork he has asked for over the short time he has been in office. So does it not concern you that he has asked for over 900 million in pork spending and he thinks it is so great that he even list the pork projects on his web site?

Heck on his own web site he talks about cutting spending and waistful prok spending.Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need | Fiscal

Problem is here on his same site he brags about all the prok projects he has tried to get passed.Obama Announces FY08 Federal Funding Requests | U.S. Senator Barack Obama

dmek25 · 10-23-2008, 12:52 PM

about the money, i really don't see a problem with Palin getting outfitted for the potential job. would people rather she paraded around in wal- mart stuff? but, im sure there are people around here that were screaming about Bill Clinton's $500.00 hair cut...

dmek25 · 10-23-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by redskinjim

politics is where the money is . how did obama raise 150 million in one month sounds kind of fishy to me. who gave him that kind of money arabs?chinese?

well, since he is a Muslim, and pals around with terrorists, its probably the Arabs. this is about a dumb a post as i have seen around here in quite some time

FRPLG · 10-23-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

well, since he is a Muslim, and pals around with terrorists, its probably the Arabs. this is about a dumb a post as i have seen around here in quite some time

I concur.

Mattyk · 10-23-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

about the money, i really don't see a problem with Palin getting outfitted for the potential job. would people rather she paraded around in wal- mart stuff? but, im sure there are people around here that were screaming about Bill Clinton's $500.00 hair cut...

Why not if she champions herself as an everyday kind of person who is looking out for Joe Six Pack or Joe the 'insert blue collar occupation here'? Just seems hypocritical to me.

Mattyk · 10-23-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Well if I'm correct he states he is against it but thinks its a state issue. Those clips can cut off what ever they don't want you to hear and I don't think gay marriage is the big issue Americans face today. I did not miss the point about Gore but I did notice your double standard. You still have not answered the question I have asked now about 5 time about Obama's pork spend and all the pork he has asked for over the short time he has been in office. So does it not concern you that he has asked for over 900 million in pork spending and he thinks it is so great that he even list the pork projects on his web site?

Heck on his own web site he talks about cutting spending and waistful prok spending.Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need | Fiscal

Problem is here on his same site he brags about all the prok projects he has tried to get passed.Obama Announces FY08 Federal Funding Requests | U.S. Senator Barack Obama

dude if you wanna talk about that stuff, go ahead and start up your own thread on it. You're the one that immediately tried to switch gears in this thread from Palin's $150k wardrobe, which I guess you don't have a problem with, to pork spending. I'm just staying on topic.

I don't have a double standard. On Gore I was talking about the issue only, totally independent of Gore. So yes, you missed the point and continue to it seems.

firstdown · 10-23-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

dude if you wanna talk about that stuff, go ahead and start up your own thread on it. You're the one that immediately tried to switch gears in this thread from Palin's $150k wardrobe, which I guess you don't have a problem with, to pork spending. I'm just staying on topic.

I don't have a double standard. On Gore I was talking about the issue only, totally independent of Gore. So yes, you missed the point and continue to it seems.

So you won't answer the question because its not on topic here in the parking lot and none of the threads every get off topic? You didn't have a problem answering the Gore thing (off topic) but for some unknown reason cannot answer the Obama pork spending question.I also think it is on topic because its about spending and you questioned Palin and the Rep. so I just put the ball back in your court. To answer your question. No, I don't have a problem with what they have spent on her clothing because it is not my money nor tax payers that purchased her clothing. You keep on bringing up Joe six pack but he is not running for office and is not the one in need to look great for several months while campaining. I look at my own wife's clothing and see what she hanging in the closet and just kind of shake my head. I think allot of women spend way too much on clothing and none of them are running for VP of the US. I bet if you asked most guys they would say that women in general spend too much on clothing and that they take up more than 90% of the closet place in their home.

Mattyk · 10-23-2008, 02:49 PM

I don't have a major problem with his pork requests. He's been upfront about it, he hasn't lied about it like others have, and the majority of his requests have been for education, non-profit groups, and social services. And his requests are a drop in the bucket when compared to what the gov't spends.

If we want to seriously cut costs, how about getting the F out of Iraq for starters?

10-23-2008, 10:07 AM	#32
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,689	Re: $150G From GOP For Fashions For Palins? It's not the dollar amount that I'm taking issue with, it's the double standard of accusing Obama of being an elitist while portraying yourself as being an advocate for the average American, then blowing an insane amount of money on a wardrobe. It just makes no sense to me, but then again the entire McCain campaign hasn't made much sense either. Every week they throw a new piece of shit against the wall to see if it will stick, and usually it's something they are already guilty of themselves. It's comical really. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-23-2008, 11:02 AM	#33
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10-23-2008, 11:44 AM	#35
redskinjim Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: fresno ca Posts: 371	Re: $150G From GOP For Fashions For Palins? they have a blank check with a limited spending window unless they win the election then they are filthy rich

10-23-2008, 11:50 AM	#36
redskinjim Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: fresno ca Posts: 371	Re: $150G From GOP For Fashions For Palins? politics is where the money is . how did obama raise 150 million in one month sounds kind of fishy to me. who gave him that kind of money arabs?chinese?

10-23-2008, 12:52 PM	#39
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,439	Re: $150G From GOP For Fashions For Palins? about the money, i really don't see a problem with Palin getting outfitted for the potential job. would people rather she paraded around in wal- mart stuff? but, im sure there are people around here that were screaming about Bill Clinton's $500.00 hair cut... __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

10-23-2008, 02:49 PM	#45
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,689	Re: $150G From GOP For Fashions For Palins? I don't have a major problem with his pork requests. He's been upfront about it, he hasn't lied about it like others have, and the majority of his requests have been for education, non-profit groups, and social services. And his requests are a drop in the bucket when compared to what the gov't spends. If we want to seriously cut costs, how about getting the F out of Iraq for starters? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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