Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Off-Topic Discussion > Parking Lot


Secretary of State Hillary Clinton?

Parking Lot


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-15-2008, 07:00 PM   #16
Registered User
 
saden1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Seattle
Age: 35
Posts: 10,069
Re: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton?

Critical decisions and policy are ultimately made by the President (one would hope at least) much in the same way all critical business decisions in a company are made by its CEO. That doesn't mean the President or a CEO has no use for knowledgeable people whose brains he can pick and implement his vision.

A good manager informs his employees what the end result should be and leaves them alone. You want the secretary of state to be a competent and capable employee. Able to execute on their own with little guidance beyond what the end result should be.

Quote:
No man is wise enough by himself.

-Titus Maccius Plautus
saden1 is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 11-18-2008, 10:13 PM   #17
Playmaker
 
70Chip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Manassas
Age: 44
Posts: 3,048
Re: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 12thMan View Post
So with all that's going on globally, you think Sec. of State is an "outmoded" job? Okay, I guess the same could be said of Vice President and a few other cabinet posts as well. Hell, why even have the position at all? Just appoint a team of ambassadors to be the face of diplomacy for the United States. Why not.

I think more than ever, this cabinet position is critical to how we deal with and negotiate foreign affairs. With two wars going on, Bin Laden still on the loose, and a host of other regimes forming, for the life of me I don't see how this is an irrelevant position. Not to mention that Obama will be utterly consumed with our domestic economy, he'll need someone who has the balls (sorry Hill) to wander off the ranch every now and then.

Actually, 70, I think you should fill out that 63 question application and apply for the position yourself.

It could be critical if the President wants it to be. If not, he has other options. Richard Nixon opened China, made detente with The Soviets, prevented war between India and Pakistan, got rid of Pinochet, and stoped shipping gold to Europe. Do you know off the top of your head who his Secretary of State was? All the power in the executive branch rests with The President. If he wants to allow her to have power he might, but he doesn't necessarily have to.

BTW, his name was William Rogers.

Furthermore, Obama's peronality strikes me as one who woud prefer to keep decision making as close to himself as possible, especially as it relates to the State Department. The State Department is like this:

1. They move slowly. When the President makes a decision he wants it to be executed. He doesn't want round after round of introspection and meetings. If know one has told him this already, he'll figure it out pretty quickly.

2. They leak. If they don't like a policy direction, they run to the press and try to derail it.

3. They're naive. They seem to believe everything and anything that their foreign counterparts tell them. They are still in search of that elusive "Iranian Moderate" that's always just out of reach, as an example.
__________________
This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

Last edited by 70Chip; 11-18-2008 at 10:38 PM.
70Chip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2008, 03:29 PM   #18
Registered User
 
saden1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Seattle
Age: 35
Posts: 10,069
Re: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton?

Like it or not Obama will run this country the same way he ran his campaign. Brace yourself for there will be intelligence, thoughtfulness, and compromises involved. Knowledgeable people will take part in the discussions and the commander in-chief will actually be smart enough to understand the issues and applies decision science instead of going with his gut.

The grand delusion of Americans is the belief that American foreign policy is moderate. Looking at the last eight years of "carrots be damn, it's time to kick ass, taser some balls and take names" it seems that the delusion has gotten worse. Everyone is above average symptom at work I guess.

Last edited by saden1; 11-19-2008 at 06:47 PM. Reason: multi tasking plus dislexia is helluva retardation.
saden1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.13593 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25