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Old 01-16-2009, 12:39 PM   #16
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I'm sure they weren't removed for their names only, but I'm sure the names set off a HUGE red flag and they were investigated accordingly.
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:02 PM   #17
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or the amount they are going to get made fun of in school
Well if I named my son Susan should I loose him because he will get made fun of at school?
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I'm sure they weren't removed for their names only, but I'm sure the names set off a HUGE red flag and they were investigated accordingly.
Because Government/DSS only acts on rational and good motives. gotcha

or another possibility, a DSS worker read the story, thought this was so hurtful and made a case to prove it.
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Because Government/DSS only acts on rational and good motives. gotcha

or another possibility, a DSS worker read the story, thought this was so hurtful and made a case to prove it.
Well I think your almost right and I think the reason it was postponed is because they are still trying to make a case and at this point don't have enough evidence for removing the children. I'm not sure why they could not just leave the children in the home until they had a full investigation and gathered all the facts. If this comes out they are not abusive they have put these children through something they did not need to go through.
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Well if I named my son Susan should I loose him because he will get made fun of at school?
You're comparing a boy named Sue to a boy named after one of the most infamous and vile human beings to have walked the face of this earth? C'mon, you've got to do better than that.
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You're comparing a boy named Sue to a boy named after one of the most infamous and vile human beings to have walked the face of this earth? C'mon, you've got to do better than that.
Why do you, I or anybody get to decide what a good and bad name is? And how? You're talking about subjective things now. Plenty of people don't W so should parents not be able to name their kids George? Using arbitrary rules based completely in subjectivity seems totally wrong.
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Once again, you're specifically naming a child after a man that tried to exterminate a group of humans. I think you're just paying devil's advocate. It's a bad name. You're just opening the doors wide open for that child to be constantly ridiculed everyday for the rest of his life. If the parents can't see that then what else are they subjecting their kids to? I'm leaning heavily towards the assumption that this is just the icing on the cake. The kids are probably in an environment that is dangerous to their well-being, whether it be physical, mental, emotional, whatever.
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There are people in this country who still carry the last name Hitler. Many changed to some close variation like Hiller, but some seem seem to have taken the Micheal Bolton approach: "Why should I change, he's the one who sucks." It takes a lot of balls to go through life as a Hitler, I would imagine.
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Well if I named my son Susan should I loose him because he will get made fun of at school?
I didn't say they should lose him because he will get made fun of, I said he will take a lot of abuse getting made fun of at school.
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Why do you, I or anybody get to decide what a good and bad name is? And how? You're talking about subjective things now. Plenty of people don't W so should parents not be able to name their kids George? Using arbitrary rules based completely in subjectivity seems totally wrong.
So you have no problem with these kids' names?

The issue goes deeper than just the names. Have you seen what the father has tattooed on his hand?



Couple that with the names of the kids do you think the parents just might be worth looking in to a little further to ensure the children's well being?

Or is a tattoo just a tattoo?
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There's a problem with the kids names but the bigger problem lies with the notion that the state can and should bar Neo Nazis from raising their kids. If the state can take these kids away on the grounds of their names and their parents affinity for Nazism what's next? Take all the kids from racist households? What about people like Tom Cruise?
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There's a problem with the kids names but the bigger problem lies with the notion that the state can and should bar Neo Nazis from raising their kids. If the state can take these kids away on the grounds of their names and their parents affinity for Nazism what's next? Take all the kids from racist households? What about people like Tom Cruise?
I really don't know. There's not a simple answer.
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There's a problem with the kids names but the bigger problem lies with the notion that the state can and should bar Neo Nazis from raising their kids. If the state can take these kids away on the grounds of their names and their parents affinity for Nazism what's next? Take all the kids from racist households? What about people like Tom Cruise?
You and I rarely agree on things but we do on this. The names do suck and the parents are awful for a variety of reasons in my opinion. But my opinion shouldn't matter, and nor should anyone else's. If the basis for removal was just the names it is a disgrace. But I agree with you Matty that the names are a good indication that they should be looked at.
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I really don't know. There's not a simple answer.
See I think there is a simple answer. You and I don t tell other people how to raise their kids. If the kids are being endangered clearly and objectively then I am all for removal. If the kids are being taught something that a lot people think sucks then that's part of living in the land of the free in my opinion. We need to realize that everything can't always be peaches and cream when people have the freedoms we do in this country. A lot of people abuse them but when we look at the whole picture and our freedoms, our country rocks.
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