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Old 01-20-2009, 09:22 PM   #31
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That must not apply to the www, or perhaps it is the difficulty in the catch and prosecution. That type of info is readily available on the web
Oh, it most certainly does (in this case the research never got out into the wild and was classified). It is difficult to catch someone if you are dealing with someone that knows what they are doing or is located in a non-friendly country. Your average Joe and Jane, however, can easily be traced.
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Old 01-20-2009, 09:45 PM   #32
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So if the kids are being taught hate, antisemitism, racism, etc., that doesn't constitute an unsafe environment or borderline abuse?

What are we defining as "endangering" here?
What about children raised in extreme fundamentalist Islamic households? Many of these children are being taught hate and raised in an anti-semitic / anti-christian, racist environment.
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Old 01-21-2009, 01:33 PM   #33
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So if the kids are being taught hate, antisemitism, racism, etc., that doesn't constitute an unsafe environment or borderline abuse?

What are we defining as "endangering" here?


This goes on more than most people are aware of, and is not necessarily limited to white folks.

Should the gov't go in and take custody of all kids named, Joseph (Stalin) or Harry (Truman, I mean, c'mon, the atomic bomb), Jean (of the Rawanda genocide)...or any other mass murderer? A name is a name. Granted, it's plainly obvious the parents beliefs, but I don't believe that, and that alone, should be cause to take the kids from their parents. Do I think they (the parents) are wrong? Of course. Maybe they should be monitored? Idk. I'm sure that these kids, will always be on the eyes and ears of the local Childrens advocacy groups, and, unless they move away, will always be under scrutiny.

Apparently, The Nazi Twins are still with their racist parents...

The only reason we know about this case, in particular, is because the media got hold of it.

...if it was all about one's name, Obama would never have been elected. IMPO.
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Old 01-21-2009, 02:10 PM   #34
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This goes on more than most people are aware of, and is not necessarily limited to white folks.

Should the gov't go in and take custody of all kids named, Joseph (Stalin) or Harry (Truman, I mean, c'mon, the atomic bomb), Jean (of the Rawanda genocide)...or any other mass murderer? A name is a name. Granted, it's plainly obvious the parents beliefs, but I don't believe that, and that alone, should be cause to take the kids from their parents. Do I think they (the parents) are wrong? Of course. Maybe they should be monitored? Idk. I'm sure that these kids, will always be on the eyes and ears of the local Childrens advocacy groups, and, unless they move away, will always be under scrutiny.

Apparently, The Nazi Twins are still with their racist parents...

The only reason we know about this case, in particular, is because the media got hold of it.

...if it was all about one's name, Obama would never have been elected. IMPO.
Wasn't it already said that the children were not removed solely because of their names?
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Wasn't it already said that the children were not removed solely because of their names?
Yes, according to the mother a neighbor accused them of abuse

Mother of children named after Nazis: We didn't abuse Adolf Hitler and his siblings
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Old 01-21-2009, 02:18 PM   #36
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Yea. I saw that. Can't share my own opinions, tho?
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Yea. I saw that. Can't share my own opinions, tho?
Sorry, I wasn't trying to invalidate your opinion. It seems that there are several posts that suggest that the only reason the kids were taken was because of their names.
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Old 01-21-2009, 03:37 PM   #39
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I wasn't around so I don't know, but I seem to remember something about the early 50's called the Red Scare; where people regularly were anonymously reporting Stalinists and Communists (oh my) and it got out of control. Family Services can too often behave the same way. If an adult reported the crime than that name should be available to the public. There should be some accountability for false accusors and then maybe there would be less concern that big brother was just doing whatever the heck they want.
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