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Old 01-20-2009, 03:04 PM   #16
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I agree that it's a good one, I just wish I could have seen it in person or even on TV.

To me the whole idea that although the country may be a bit down it is up us all to pull it back up is very inclusive without trying too hard. It reminds me of Kennedy's message "Ask not for what your country can do for you, but for what you can do for your country," but I'm guessing that's what Obama is going for.

Took the words right out of my mouth!!!!

I was waiting for him to say that exact quote.
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Old 01-20-2009, 03:16 PM   #17
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Ra Ra...Woohooo. Very historic day. Good luck Mr. President.

The "tell me" phase is over, we have entered the "show me" phase.
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:11 PM   #18
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Sorry, I didn't like socialism under GWB nor will I like it under BHO. I don't subscribe to the cult of personality that these people seem to bring with them. The best thing he can do is nothing. I would fully support him doing nothing and would wish him all the best. If he could get Congress to do nothing I'd kiss his rear end. He hasn't said anything new. Nothing has changed. GWB said the same BS when he came there. I'm going to stop. Everyone is happy and I don't want to pee on everyone's happy time. Hurrah Blessed Sword of God Obama! Live long and prosper.
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Sorry, I didn't like socialism under GWB nor will I like it under BHO. I don't subscribe to the cult of personality that these people seem to bring with them. The best thing he can do is nothing. I would fully support him doing nothing and would wish him all the best. If he could get Congress to do nothing I'd kiss his rear end. He hasn't said anything new. Nothing has changed. GWB said the same BS when he came there. I'm going to stop. Everyone is happy and I don't want to pee on everyone's happy time. Hurrah Blessed Sword of God Obama! Live long and prosper.
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Anarchy?
The Executive/Legislative branch doing nothing would not be anarchy, because all the laws needed to maintain order are already in place. So it's not anarchy, although if no funding bills were passed it would get pretty nasty pretty quick.

I think Trample's points are to the extreme side of Libertarianism, which is to say if the Constitution don't say it the Congress doesn't need to write it.

As I put in my sig, it would be nice to see a real attempt at looking at every aspect of government, without either side bringing their petty issues up every time (Obama's quote made me think of how every thread here becomes about Vinny/Danny I may borrow his line and just substitute the word football at the end of it) . Real reform could and should include bringing the education and military establishments away from the union/generals hands and look at what is working. I sincerely hope that Obama lives up to the ideals of his speech.
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If this were a socialist country, I wouldn't be paying 1000 a week for health care, trample.
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The Executive/Legislative branch doing nothing would not be anarchy, because all the laws needed to maintain order are already in place. So it's not anarchy, although if no funding bills were passed it would get pretty nasty pretty quick.

I think Trample's points are to the extreme side of Libertarianism, which is to say if the Constitution don't say it the Congress doesn't need to write it.

As I put in my sig, it would be nice to see a real attempt at looking at every aspect of government, without either side bringing their petty issues up every time (Obama's quote made me think of how every thread here becomes about Vinny/Danny I may borrow his line and just substitute the word football at the end of it) . Real reform could and should include bringing the education and military establishments away from the union/generals hands and look at what is working. I sincerely hope that Obama lives up to the ideals of his speech.

Not to mention if your going to war Congress must make a clear declaration and not just pass off their responsibilty to the President.

Also all power not authorized by the Constitution is delegated to the states. So the Federal government should have no power over education. Hence the Department of Education is an illegal entity. Our schools were the best in the world before the Federal Government became involved. Yeah some areas sucked but look at the state tests before and after the Feds. The tests they had back then a college student today couldn't answer.

The military would be just fine if they didn't dandify everything. I asked my DI why we couldn't use flamethrowers or trench knives. I was told that they were inhuman, as if sticking a bayonet in a man's throat was. The Geneva convention is a wad of toilet paper. Ask any Marine from the Pacific Campaigns if they gave a damn about human rights? I had no problems using NBC warfare against the Taliban. The war would be over today if we had.

Why we stabbed Saddam in the back is beyond me (Oil)? We sold him the equipment to make all of his chemical weapons, not to mention satelite images of the Persian positions during their war. Anyone who believes there were no weapons of mass destruction is a fool. We still have the receipts.

Yes, that's right. The best they can do is nothing. The Founding Fathers meant for the government to be slow and ineffectual to a point. The more they disagreed the less money they'd steal and the more rights we'd have. Whenever they call for bipartisanship I want to vomit. When they say they're going to work together it means you and me (the taxpayers) are going to get sodomized. I'd pay good money to see them fight like they do in Korea and Thailand.

Yes, I am a Libertarian. I used to be a Republican. That was before the Bushes. I didn't leave the party. It left me. So guess what. I stopped voting for them and now they can be a minor league team for a generation. Anyone who believes that not voting is wrong. IMO withdrawing in disgust is different than apathy. America you get what you deserve. And right now you deserve The Blessed Sword of God. All hail the Lepper Mesiah! THE MOB RULES!
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I guess it's safe to say that Trample the Elderly has ruined the original intent of this thread (which admittedly never really took off).

"And right now you deserve The Blessed Sword of God. All hail the Lepper Mesiah! THE MOB RULES!"

WTF?

Guess I should just lock this
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Blah, blah, blah, opinion, opinion, opinion is all I hear. I too have an asshole. Where's your citation?
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I guess it's safe to say that Trample the Elderly has ruined the original intent of this thread (which admittedly never really took off).

"And right now you deserve The Blessed Sword of God. All hail the Lepper Mesiah! THE MOB RULES!"

WTF?

Guess I should just lock this
Don't lock it, I'm interested to see where this goes.
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I guess it's safe to say that Trample the Elderly has ruined the original intent of this thread (which admittedly never really took off).

"And right now you deserve The Blessed Sword of God. All hail the Lepper Mesiah! THE MOB RULES!"

WTF?

Guess I should just lock this
I think only a youtube clip could save this thread.
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:56 PM   #27
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Blah, blah, blah, opinion, opinion, opinion is all I hear. I too have an asshole. Where's your citation?
Congress used it for toilet paper a long time ago. Isn't opinion what blogging is all about?

Sorry Smoot, I didn't mean to piss all over your thread. I enjoy your insiders knowledge and a lot of what you say makes sense to me.

I feel for Obama, I really do. If he scews up the country up only as half as bad than GWB. I'd say that he'd be a good President. He's getting a boat load of trouble and history shows us that he'll have to fight his own party more than the Whigs / Republicans.

Barrack = Blessed
Hussein = Sword of God
Obama = I'm not sure what that means in Arabic

I just find it ironic that the last guy (that was our friend) named Hussein was killed. No, I'm not going there. I wish no harm to anyone.

Lepper Messiah = Metallica Master of Puppets Album
The Mob Rules = Black Sabbath The Mob Rules Album

I'm an eighties child what can I say? Heavy metal taught me to not trust the government.

(Hail) I was only comparing the reverence that everyone is showing Barrack to how the Romans showed respect to their God-Emperors.

Citation? While I don't know that much about the draft or all of the rules of the NFL I do know about history, politics, and the Constitution. Prove me wrong if you don't believe what I say.

No, this will not go anywhere. I just get frustrated that I have no say in how my government functions. I used to believe in this country. I bought into the dream. My real beef is with Congress not Obama. Seeing how he was just a Senator I lump him in there too.

I told them not to bail out the banks. F you, pay me. I tell them that I don't want them to outsource our jobs. F you, pay me. I say how come you guys haven't won the war already? F you, pay me. I say you guys should really mind your business and do something about the problems here. F you, pay me. I ask how come I have to follow the law but you don't? F you, pay me. I say you're inflating the money to the point that it's about as valuable as monoploy money? F you, give it to me anyway? I say how come the President can't speak English? F you, pay me.

I didn't just ask these questions on a web-site. I went to all of my elected officials and asked them. Would you like to make a contribution? That's what I got in return.

Outright Socialist? I wouldn't call the bailouts Capitalism? No, they don't have arm bands. That would raise too many red flags. This is soft socialism with a smile, like in Europe.

I'm paying 15% and I'm sure that a lot of you pay more. I don't think my money is being well spent. If you went to a nice place to eat and your NY strip had spit all over it you'd be angry too.

So if you think the government is going to help you out and this is a great day then fine. If that what makes you happy so be it. Somebody might as well get something out of it, we're paying for it right?
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Old 01-20-2009, 09:39 PM   #28
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Sorry everyone, I apologize. I get pissed off sometimes.

I love this Country but I fear this government.

When I took the oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic I meant it. It pisses me off that our government treats it like an old rag.
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Let me break it down for you then since you have the lazy gene. What you really want is to live in a Night Watchman State. That is fine, the problem is United States was founded as a Constitutional Republic. I'm sure you know what a Republic is so I won't bore you anymore. I just hope you can figure out what I am getting at here because, like you, I have the lazy gene.

Some day brother people like you will run for office and get elected to serve the people. Only then will we finally have those night watchmen towers.
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Let me break it down for you then since you have the lazy gene. What you really want is to live in a Night Watchman State. That is fine, the problem is United States was founded as a Constitutional Republic. I'm sure you know what a Republic is so I won't bore you anymore. I just hope you can figure out what I am getting at here because, like you, I have the lazy gene.

Some day brother people like you will run for office and get elected to serve the people. Only then will we finally have those night watchmen towers.
No, I wasn't lazy. I packed the gear, voted, studied the positions and philosophy, I called their offices, I wrote letters, I donated money. They promised me shine-ola and I got . . . . Guess that's the way of the world and I was just naive.

I doubt the Founding Fathers would recognize this Republic. It's good to see that someone knows this country is a Republic and not a democracy. Everytime that I hear about spreading Democracy across the world I cringe.

I wasn't familiar with the night watchman phrase. You're right. I do support Austrian Economics, Libertarianism, and no I wouldn't have been with the Federalist.

No one would vote for me. I'm to radical. Thanks for the info . . . .

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