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Old 02-19-2009, 08:04 AM   #46
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Schneed, according to what I've read this is not how it went down at all. The victim was the owner's good friend. She had spent lots of time with the chimp in the past and often visited the home. So fond of and familiar with the monkey was she that this time she had brought an Elmo doll as a gift for it. She got out of her car carrying the doll and was attacked. For whatever reason, something triggered the monkey to flip out. The friend was not intervening in anything as the monkey was not attacking the owner.

This is at least what I have read.
I thought the monkey got out of the house with a key and the friend tried to help out?
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:17 AM   #47
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update: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/19/ny...l?ref=nyregion
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:31 AM   #48
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Just when you think you've seen or heard it all from moron land, here comes another:

Paterson, Sharpton slam NY Post chimp cartoon -- Newsday.com
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:36 AM   #49
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NY Post and its Cartoonist think they're funny too:




What's really funny is the response from the cartoonist to criticism:

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Do you really think I’m saying Obama should be shot? I didn’t see that in the cartoon. It’s about the economic stimulus bill. If you’re going to make that about anybody, it would be Pelosi, which it’s not.

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Old 02-19-2009, 08:39 AM   #50
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I think that cartoon disgraces African Americans more then the slaned ape from earlier this week.
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:42 AM   #51
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Just when you think you've seen or heard it all from moron land, here comes another:

Paterson, Sharpton slam NY Post chimp cartoon -- Newsday.com
You beat me to it. Little do they know no one is laughing. Seriously, where is the satire and humor in the cartoon? Where's the irony, derision, or wit?
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:59 AM   #52
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Michael Steele is one cool and funny cat too though not in the way he hoped I am sure:

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“we need to uptick our image with everyone, including one-armed midgets.”
LOL...now that's funny...and sad...all at the same time.
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I thought the monkey got out of the house with a key and the friend tried to help out?
Oh I see what you are saying, I thought you meant she was like intervening in an attack. I don't know that you can fault her for going over though, given that she had a relationship with the chimp.

Is anyone else really uncomfortable with the idea of face transplantation? That just gives me the willies.
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Old 02-19-2009, 09:14 AM   #54
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NY Post and its Cartoonist think they're funny too:




What's really funny is the response from the cartoonist to criticism:
Trample, did you draw this?
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Oh I see what you are saying, I thought you meant she was like intervening in an attack. I don't know that you can fault her for going over though, given that she had a relationship with the chimp.

Is anyone else really uncomfortable with the idea of face transplantation? That just gives me the willies.
What gives me the willies more is the fact his monkey literally ripped her face off. Can you imagine being the cop that rolled up on that scene? Wow.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:13 AM   #56
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You beat me to it. Little do they know no one is laughing. Seriously, where is the satire and humor in the cartoon? Where's the irony, derision, or wit?
Saden, an off topic item, but why do you put so many links in when you're making a point? I don't even click on 10% of them. I'd rather you just make your point on your own.

Criticism police.
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Saden, an off topic item, but why do you put so many links in when you're making a point? I don't even click on 10% of them. I'd rather you just make your point on your own.

Criticism police.

I provide links to support my argument and to give context to my posts when possible. Honestly though, linking takes some effort and it's much easier to just write a post and be done without having to explain yourself. Clicking is obviously optional but for further detail as to why I link you should read Frank Rich piece or you can just read the quote below seeing how you don't like linking :p


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Rich says his linking is as much about backing up his argument as it is about adding background. If one’s argument is only as good as one’s facts, Rich sends you to his facts. “Now, sometimes it’s unlinkable material,” he says. “But why not give the reader, if he or she wants to, the opportunity to see the sources, or a source, when it’s available? It helps bulletproof the column, because if they say ‘He must be making that up,’ they can look and see — here’s the source, take a look and judge it for yourself….If I’m citing a figure, at the most banal level, from the Labor Department or a poll or an economic report, [why not] link to the whole document it comes from?”

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Rich says he does see the links as optional added value. “To me as a writer, the most important thing is to have the column stand alone,” he told me. “Believe it or not, there are still a lot of readers who still read the column on paper.” Linking, he says, is “extracurricular activity for those who want it and have the time to indulge in it.”
p.s. I of course was doing it big way before Frank Rich.

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If you read the caption it says about writing the stimulas bill. The President does not write bills so it was not refering to him but does this mean if anyone does a cartoon about Obama its races. The only time I even look at him as AA is when its pointed out by the media or who ever is bringing it up. I know he is the first AA to hold office which is a great acheivement but after that he is just another person and thats how I look at him.

If you have not heard some one degrade a AA by comparing him/her to an ape/monkey then you may want to crawl out of the rock you have been living under.
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NY Post and its Cartoonist think they're funny too:
What's really funny is the response from the cartoonist to criticism:
My initial reaction was the same as most, it looks like a racist attack against Obama. However thinking about it (and giving the cartoonist the benefit of the doubt that he's not a full on racist moron), what the cartoonist was probably trying to say is that the Stimulus bill was so poorly done a monkey must've wrote it. HOWEVER, that's what editors are for, and for them to miss the racist implication in this is inexcusable. The editor who blew it should be fired and if I'm the Post, I don't use this cartoonist anymore either.
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My initial reaction was the same as most, it looks like a racist attack against Obama. However thinking about it (and giving the cartoonist the benefit of the doubt that he's not a full on racist moron), what the cartoonist was probably trying to say is that the Stimulus bill was so poorly done a monkey must've wrote it. HOWEVER, that's what editors are for, and for them to miss the racist implication in this is inexcusable. The editor who blew it should be fired and if I'm the Post, I don't use this cartoonist anymore either.
I agree with you. At no time do Ithink the cartoonist intial was trying to make a racist remark but that was a poor choice to use because many will think he is racist.
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