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Old 03-11-2009, 12:48 PM   #136
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I'd also point out that gaming companies in their time of need for cash can in fact put them out of business. We "have" the Uptick rule for that reason, unfortunately it isn't good enough.
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Old 03-11-2009, 02:40 PM   #137
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short selling and buying on margins aren't generally the best of things, but corrupt hedge fund management (like kramer disucsses, which is the norm) and the financial industry and congress/lobbyists/etc all pushing each other for less regulation are bigger issues.

and a unjustified negative perception CAN kill a good (smaller) business without a huge cash reserve.
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Old 03-11-2009, 03:00 PM   #138
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That can't be! Obama's spending bill was being voted on by the senate when the rally happened. There is no way that the market could have gone up! Click on a link from Fox News if you don't believe me!
Anyone trying to parlay a single day on Wall Street into a political argument is playing a fool's game. That's why this thread has been largely civil. No one knows what the hell is going to happen next, so everyone is loathe to take credit for an upswing because they don't want to have to own tomorrow's downswing.
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:39 PM   #139
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Housing starts take surprising jump in Feb.
Wall Street closes strong; Dow up 179 points
hopefully the beginning of good things to come
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:41 PM   #140
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sorry, something up with the links
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The Dow had had a good 6 days. Perhaps we have seen the bottom. If so, congratulations to Matty, Jsarno, and Schneed for being the closest. However, I think we will wait a while longer to make sure.
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Old 03-17-2009, 08:57 PM   #142
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The Dow had had a good 6 days. Perhaps we have seen the bottom. If so, congratulations to Matty, Jsarno, and Schneed for being the closest. However, I think we will wait a while longer to make sure.
On a bottom you should actually wait a year or so to see if it's a real bottom or not.
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Old 03-18-2009, 12:08 AM   #143
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It's b.s. rally, big boys playing big games. Nothing has changed really.
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yeah, citigroup gets good news, market goes up, short sellers come in to make their cash. repeat.
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Old 03-18-2009, 01:48 AM   #145
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Speaking of the shorts, here's a nice primer(I'm not a financial person so I find this sort of thing helpful):

The Uptick Rule on Vimeo

Mark to market on Vimeo

Quantitative easing on Vimeo
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Old 03-18-2009, 05:04 PM   #146
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A very close friend with a degree in finance who works in the energy markets, predicted this false bounce followed by a further drop. I'm sticking with my prediction.
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Fed to buy up to $300B long-term Treasury bonds: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance

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Dow soars nearly 500 points on banking plan
Existing-home sales post surprising 5% gain
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Dow soars nearly 500 points on banking plan
Existing-home sales post surprising 5% gain
The bolded part to me wasn't all that surprising, mortgage rates have been SUPER low lately, spurring a whole bunch of refinances and bringing buyers out of the woodwork. But I guess it's a surprise to most when other things have been grabbing the headlines and keeping everyone's attention.
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The bolded part to me wasn't all that surprising, mortgage rates have been SUPER low lately, spurring a whole bunch of refinances and bringing buyers out of the woodwork. But I guess it's a surprise to most when other things have been grabbing the headlines and keeping everyone's attention.
All the tax incentives combined with the declined home values and low rates make it a great time to buy. Definitely not too surprising, but good news for sure.
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