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Old 04-29-2009, 10:43 AM   #46
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So why haven't we shut down the border? We've confirmed it is from Mexico.

There's either something fishy going on or some major incompetence. Of course, if it's Napolitano's call...no real surprise.

We also do not have a DHS Secretary after 3+ months. Why not? Sure, Daschle was exposed to be a criminal, but why are we leaving this and so many other important Cabinet posts vacant so long?
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:56 AM   #47
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Yeah but you probably voted for Obama so your opinion is clearly politically influenced
Well played sir...

I found it interesting that the Republican governor of Texas threw out the idea of secession recently but has now asked the Feds for 35,000 vials of Tamiflu...
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So why haven't we shut down the border? We've confirmed it is from Mexico.

There's either something fishy going on or some major incompetence. Of course, if it's Napolitano's call...no real surprise.

We also do not have a DHS Secretary after 3+ months. Why not? Sure, Daschle was exposed to be a criminal, but why are we leaving this and so many other important Cabinet posts vacant so long?
We don't have a DHS (or DHHS) Secretary? Someone should tell Kathleen Sebelius.

As to why we haven't shut down the border...if only there were a doctor, perhaps an epidemiologist, on this board who could give a reason. If only...
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:37 AM   #49
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We don't have a DHS (or DHHS) Secretary? Someone should tell Kathleen Sebelius.
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So why haven't we shut down the border? We've confirmed it is from Mexico.

There's either something fishy going on or some major incompetence. Of course, if it's Napolitano's call...no real surprise.

We also do not have a DHS Secretary after 3+ months. Why not? Sure, Daschle was exposed to be a criminal, but why are we leaving this and so many other important Cabinet posts vacant so long?
See my earlier post as to why border closings will not work in this situation.

An important thing to remember for everyone is that this particular strain of influenza is susceptible to two available drugs on the market: Tamiflu and Relenza. These deaths in Mexico are probably multifactorial-- but I imagine access to these two drugs was not available in most cases.
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See my earlier post as to why border closings will not work in this situation.

An important thing to remember for everyone is that this particular strain of influenza is susceptible to two available drugs on the market: Tamiflu and Relenza. These deaths in Mexico are probably multifactorial-- but I imagine access to these two drugs was not available in most cases.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:11 PM   #52
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Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that all conservatives do is list problems but they never have practical, realistic or feasible solutions? It's black and white when there's color. It's either or never both. It's left or right but straight is forbidden.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:18 PM   #53
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Should I stop sharing my bed with my pet potbelly pig Edgar?
A bit out of my realm--though I did grow up in Burtonsville with guys that had close relationships with their farm animals. I can refer you to a veterinary psychiatrist at USDA in Beltsville...
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Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that all conservatives do is list problems but they never have practical, realistic or feasible solutions? It's black and white when there's color. It's either or never both. It's left or right but straight is forbidden.
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Should I stop sharing my bed with my pet potbelly pig Edgar?
When I made this goofy joke early I randomly came up with the name Edgar because I think it would be a funny name for a pet pig. Now I'm freaked out because Patient Zero's first name is Edgar.
Meet the boy believed to be 'patient zero' - CNN.com

Weird...
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Long story short(as possible).

Every living mammal has it's own version of the flu. For these species their version affects them like ours generally affects us.

In Mexico a guy with a mild case of human flu worked with pigs. A pig had swine flu. That flu-ridden worker contracted the swine flu. Tis rarely happens but isn't impossible. Usually this is no big deal beyond the orginal affected. He/she may die but the disease rarely transfers from pigs so it's almost impossible for it to pass from the affected human to another. In this particular case because the worker already had the human flu the swine interacted with the swine flu to create a more virulent human flu that is passable. This is called reassortment. The viruses pass DNA back and forth and create new strains. This is why every year they have to come up with new flu shots...because every year there is a new flu virus that came from two or more flus reassorting in a host and then passed along.
Nice explanation...thanks. I didn't think it was possible for those things to happen, but I guess they can.
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Lets kill all the pigs in the world! Make them extinct! Sure no more bacon or hot dogs but we could also get rid of type 2 diabetes. Kill 2 birds with one stone and by the way I am not too fond of the hummingbird either.
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Lets kill all the pigs in the world! Make them extinct! Sure no more bacon or hot dogs but we could also get rid of type 2 diabetes. Kill 2 birds with one stone and by the way I am not too fond of the hummingbird either.
aaawwww, poor hummingbird...what did he do to you?

About getting rid of pigs, well, there is a reason certain religions do not think it is "clean" meat and will not eat it.
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aaawwww, poor hummingbird...what did he do to you?

About getting rid of pigs, well, there is a reason certain religions do not think it is "clean" meat and will not eat it.


he flaps his wings too damn fast
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Old 04-30-2009, 03:35 PM   #60
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Lets kill all the pigs in the world! Make them extinct! Sure no more bacon or hot dogs but we could also get rid of type 2 diabetes. Kill 2 birds with one stone and by the way I am not too fond of the hummingbird either.
Oh hell no! I can't live without Sausage. If you want to liquidate something start with mosquitos, ticks, leeches, and chiggers.

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