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Old 05-11-2009, 06:50 PM   #31
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Where have you been? They've already privatized the military. Wishing death on someone that isn't Bin Laden just makes you a jerk.

I see your point about privatizing the military...we're not there yet but we're getting there.

I can't honestly say I would ever consider donating a kidney to Rushbo or Osama. These two inviduals who want America to fail aught to die a painful death don't you think?
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Old 05-11-2009, 06:55 PM   #32
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I think it is hilarious that people say conservatives are the ones who are hateful and close-minded.

And its not like a $1.8 trillion dollar deficit is excessive or anything, where 46% of the budget is borrowed money. Lets solve our recession that was caused by borrowing too much money by borrowing a whole lot more money. That makes perfect sense.

There's nothing funny about the truth. If it's not the gays, it's the Mexicans, if it's not the Mexicans it's the minorities, and if it's not the minorities it's the government.

Yeah, you should first talk to your boys in the GOP...they've singed off on every Bush bill and when he left office he left America a 1.3 trillion dollar annual deficit.

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There's nothing funny about the true. If it's not the gays, it's the Mexicans, if it's not the Mexicans it's the minorities, and if it's not the minorities it's the government.

Yeah, you should first talk to your boys in the GOP...they've singed off on every Bush bill and when he left office he left America a 1.3 trillion dollar annual deficit.
Yea, except its not true. Sorry for wanting our laws enforced and the Constitution upheld.

And sorry, I don't have any boys in the GOP. The GOP sucks just like the democrats do. Bush was horrible when it came to spending and now Obama is making it even worse, but for some reason it is ok when Obama does it.
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I see your point about privatizing the military...we're not there yet but we're getting there.

I can't honestly say I would ever consider donating a kidney to Rushbo or Osama. These two inviduals who want America to fail aught to die a painful death don't you think?
You aught to be bright enough than to run with someone else's spin. Limbaugh said he wants Obama to fail. What's wrong with that? Didn't you want Bush to fail? If he had been a great president then we wouldn't have Obama. That idiot Sikes went and twisted it like Obama is America. So by wanting Obama to fail you then want America to fail? That makes no sense. If I wanted Bush to fail on some of his policies that means I didn't want Harriot Myers to be a Supreme Court Justice. That would've been bad for America. What's good for a politician isn't exactly good for the nation.
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Saden, still you seem swallowed up in this one.

I doubt any military person will tell you it is run efficiently. I can tell you from my experience, that having 30 people stand and look over several Humvees is not very efficient. As for fraud, I would refer back to the 5000 dollar toilet seat. Sure the military gets the job done, and remember THAT is specifically in the Constitution(not a standing army per se, but the defense of the nation), clearly it is not the same as nationalized health care.

I think if, as I assume, you are for National Healthcare, than you would be able to acknowledge the obvious flaws, and point out your perceived benefits, that is that everyone would have some basic protection, and that could be construed as within the structure of the government's charge to promote the general welfare. I think you would be promoting the ideals that it ascribes to, and not bashing those who see a different side of the coin.
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I think I have articulated my position on health care in the past. I know and understand that I can be a d*ck at times but I'm only a d*ck when it's warranted. These teabaggers aught to be ashamed of themselves.
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You aught to be bright enough than to run with someone else's spin. Limbaugh said he wants Obama to fail. What's wrong with that? Didn't you want Bush to fail? If he had been a great president then we wouldn't have Obama. That idiot Sikes went and twisted it like Obama is America. So by wanting Obama to fail you then want America to fail? That makes no sense. If I wanted Bush to fail on some of his policies that means I didn't want Harriot Myers to be a Supreme Court Justice. That would've been bad for America. What's good for a politician isn't exactly good for the nation.
I think Bush was a failure, I didn't want him to fail. I hoped he would do a better job as president and I hoped he was defated in 2004. That is the extent of my feelings towards Bush. If Rushbo wants Obama to fail I have no problem with seeing Rushbo on his death bed and on dialysis. I don't understand why you don't think that's an acceptable position.
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I know and understand that I can be a d*ck at times but I'm only a d*ck when it's warranted. These teabaggers aught to be ashamed of themselves.
Those signs are nothing compared to some of the signs I've seen about Bush, but again for some reason they are ok. And if those signs at the tea parties are really the worst ones they can find, I don't think that is that bad. There are always going to be some nutjobs on both sides of the political spectrum.

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I think Bush was a failure, I didn't want him to fail. I hoped he would do a better job as president and I hoped he was defated in 2004. That is the extent of my feelings towards Bush. If Rushbo wants Obama to fail I have no problem with seeing Rushbo on his death bed and on dialysis. I don't understand why you don't think that's an acceptable position.
He said he wanted Obama to fail because Obama is bringing in liberalism and socialism and he wants that to fail. He wants America to succeed and that is only going to happen is Obama fails because his policies won't work.
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...and I want Rush's health to fail. Nothing personal...I just believe that failure of hate/fear mongers is going to be good for America.
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I think Bush was a failure, I didn't want him to fail. I hoped he would do a better job as president and I hoped he was defated in 2004. That is the extent of my feelings towards Bush. If Rushbo wants Obama to fail I have no problem with seeing Rushbo on his death bed and on dialysis. I don't understand why you don't think that's an acceptable position.
I happened to have a friend die of kidney failure last year. Wishing someone to die in agonizing pain just make you a jerk.
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I happened to have a friend die of kidney failure last year. Wishing someone to die in agonizing pain just make you a jerk.
LOL...this is so funny...you of all people talking about what constitutes being jerk is hilarious. If I'm a jerk what is El Rushbo?
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LOL...this is so funny...you of all people talking about what constitutes being jerk is hilarious. If I'm a jerk what is El Rushbo?
How's this: Rush wanting the President of the US to fail in his attempt to bring us out of the worst recession in decades makes him a jerk.

You wanting someone to suffer a painful and agonzing death for their political views makes you a jerk.

Seems simple enough to me.
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How's this: Rush wanting the President of the US to fail in his attempt to bring us out of the worst recession in decades makes him a jerk.

You wanting someone to suffer a painful and agonzing death for their political views makes you a jerk.

Seems simple enough to me.
This is acceptable to me. I am fully aware of my 'jerkyness' and when it comes to Rushbo I feel justified.
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...and I want Rush's health to fail. Nothing personal...I just believe that failure of hate/fear mongers is going to be good for America.
Let me add my two cents, wishing death on someone because of differing political views makes you a jerk. Talk about hate mongering.

I used to respect many of the debates we had. I hope you're just having a bad day or something.
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Let me add my two cents, wishing death on someone because of differing political views makes you a jerk. Talk about hate mongering.

I used to respect many of the debates we had. I hope you're just having a bad day or something.
This is not about political views, this is about "I hope Obama fails" and host of other offensive things he has said in the past. My feelings towards Rushbo shouldn't be narrowed in scope.
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I can honestly say that I am not too surprised with some of the posts that I have read in this thread. This thing has the makings of getting out of hand, and I fear that some of us will not be able to be friends after this thread. So in an appeal to the friendly neigborhood moderator who will listen. PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD!!!
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