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Old 05-22-2009, 03:40 PM   #31
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Further evidence of the absurd bipartisan divide in this country. You're basically saying you'd treat a fellow American - of an opposing view - just as you'd treat one of America's enemies.

That's ridiculous and makes me sad to have you as an American.
Hey Schneed.............one more thing to add. You're making it sound like "opposing view" is on something like Medicare, Socialy Security, taxes..............crap like that. Its not! His opposing view involves outing undercover CIA agents. Fear Mongering the crud out of me and you! Misleading us into a war. Taking away our constitional rights by not getting a warrant to conduct searches or wiretaps. Committing war crimes.

You see, I think all of those "opposing views" are qualities in a evil person. Thats why I believe the world would be better off without him. Now, I know I should have used more tact the first time I stated that. But, I stand by what I said.

And just for the record, If I saw someone needing CPR..............I'd call for an ambulance.
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Old 05-22-2009, 04:03 PM   #32
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So I guess if Bill Clinton needed CPR you wouldn't give it to him either? He sent prisoners to Egypt to be tortured even worse than they would be tortured here.

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Go ahead and let Bin Laden die but you would let Cheney and Rush (two Americans) die because they have different beliefs than you?
You have me confused, I put human rights above politics. If Clinton personally knew these individuals were going to be tortured and authorized their rendition you best believe I would leave him as I found him. BTW, I would perform CPR on W and McCain. Well, with W I might just put my foot on his chest and simply do a pump motion...and hope for the best.

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Old 05-22-2009, 09:10 PM   #33
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If Cheney want's to speak, it's his right. Democrats shouldn't be vexed by his high profile, since he's so widely hated. And yet it seems to vex them anyway.
Maybe he can be like Jimmy Carter and be a self-appointed "negotiator" around the world. That did wonders
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Old 05-23-2009, 01:21 AM   #34
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You have me confused, I put human rights above politics. If Clinton personally knew these individuals were going to be tortured and authorized their rendition you best believe I would leave him as I found him. BTW, I would perform CPR on W and McCain. Well, with W I might just put my foot on his chest and simply do a pump motion...and hope for the best.
So we know the people sent there were tortured but you don't think the president of the Unites States knew?
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Old 05-23-2009, 02:44 AM   #35
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So we know the people sent there were tortured but you don't think the president of the Unites States knew?
You know after the fact, the question is did you know before the fact and did president Clinton know that these prisoners were going to be tortured if they were renditioned back to Egypt. You do understand what the Directive you referenced states don't you?
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Old 05-24-2009, 11:13 AM   #36
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in my opinion, most of this is water under the bridge. Bush and co. did what they had to do, and what they thought was right, at the time. if Obama disagrees, or wants policy change, that's his prerogative. but to argue over it is a big waste of time. what it boils down to is a definition. what is, and isnt torture
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Old 05-24-2009, 11:50 AM   #37
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It seems Saden cares more obout terrorist then he cares about what happens to US citizens. You live in a pretty f^&*ed up state of mind.


Yes, I care more about the tortured than the torturer. My state of mind is perfectly fine because I know exactly who I am, what I am and what I stand for.



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Old 05-24-2009, 02:32 PM   #38
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Why so much hate? First Rush now Chenney that you want to see dead.Funny how the left seems to be filled with so much hate but then they preach why can't we all get along. I never heard anyone here that seem to be a REP. speak of people on the left dying.
Why do you make broad sweeping statements like "the left is filled with hate?" Seriously, you're an intelligent dude, I refuse to believe that you really believe all democrats or people on the left, as you put it, are hateful.
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What Ezekiel 25 :17 really says (KJV):

17 And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.
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Maybe he can be like Jimmy Carter and be a self-appointed "negotiator" around the world. That did wonders
Both are free to do as they please.
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Dude needs to get with the times as do many others in the party.
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:38 AM   #42
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Dude needs to get with the times as do many others in the party.
critisizing(sp) the obama admimistration is with the times.
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Old 05-25-2009, 01:18 PM   #43
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What Ezekiel 25 :17 really says (KJV):

17 And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.

Yes but Pulp Fiction's misquotation sounds sexier. Plus Ezekiel was a schizophrenic so it's all good.
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critisizing(sp) the obama admimistration is with the times.
touche!
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Oh come on with the shooting and blowing up clinics. Every side has a radical fring but to say the pro life movement is full of these people is just crazy. When was the last time that even happened?
sadly here's your answer

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