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Old 05-31-2009, 05:37 PM   #121
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Old 05-31-2009, 07:49 PM   #122
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Waterboarding is downright minor compared to what goes on in third world countries. Would you rather suffer genital mutilation, and limbs removed, stoned to death etc..
My brother-in-law onced described the very interesting things they do with telephone books and the back of the neck, makes waterboarding look like a day at Disney.
I do agree that if our soldiers have done horrible things to innocent Iraqis then they should be accountable but lets face it, 99.9% of those wearing the uniform are honorable individuals (one happens to be my brother and the other my bro-in-law).
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Old 05-31-2009, 08:38 PM   #123
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Has anyone posted this?

Gawker - Did Erich 'Mancow' Muller Fake His Waterboarding for Publicity? - mancow
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This whole argument is stupid. The point is we are waterboarding innocent people. That is the problem with torture IMO. I don't we have the right to do this to people who don't deserve it.

It is easy for you all to say that is a price we have to pay, because we aren't in their shoes. After we capture OSama, yes let's waterboard the heck outta him, but a lot of the people could be innocent.

Also it is proven these methods are not always effective. When being waterboarded you agree to almost anything just to make it stop. People even make up stories.
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This whole argument is stupid. The point is we are waterboarding innocent people. That is the problem with torture IMO. I don't we have the right to do this to people who don't deserve it.

It is easy for you all to say that is a price we have to pay, because we aren't in their shoes. After we capture Obama, yes let's waterboard the heck outta him, but a lot of the people could be innocent.

Also it is proven these methods are not always effective. When being waterboarded you agree to almost anything just to make it stop. People even make up stories.
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We aren't "occupying". If we were we'd be taking oil revenue from Iraq and not pumping billions into both countries to "nation-build".
Iraq is not the only country we're involved with in the Muslim world.

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Old 06-01-2009, 11:04 AM   #128
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Some times Dog you have to pull up your big boy pants and defend what is right. We can debate lacking intestinal fortitude AFTER brave and couragous people do what must be done. Too many innocent and defenseless lives are at stake here. It's a cruel world out there my friend.
You tried to justify war by saying it has ended all sorts of bad things, but it hasn't. It certainly is a cruel world, when we all think like Machiavelli.
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This whole argument is stupid. The point is we are waterboarding innocent people. That is the problem with torture IMO. I don't we have the right to do this to people who don't deserve it.

i don't think the 3 people who were waterboarded were innocent.
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Typical conservative propaganda.......................One of their own admits he was wrong. One of their own says that "this was worse then drowning". And now his fellow conservatives are saying that it was a set up and start discrediting him. Don't these conservatives realize that this doesn't work anymore? Don't they realize that everyone saw the videotape? You know if they keep on doing this then we'll see a 75% majority in the house and senate shortly.
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This whole argument is stupid. The point is we are waterboarding innocent people. That is the problem with torture IMO. I don't we have the right to do this to people who don't deserve it.

It is easy for you all to say that is a price we have to pay, because we aren't in their shoes. After we capture OSama, yes let's waterboard the heck outta him, but a lot of the people could be innocent.

Also it is proven these methods are not always effective. When being waterboarded you agree to almost anything just to make it stop. People even make up stories.
You might want to do a quick check before making a statement like this. One guy was involved in every major terrorist operation carried out by Al Qaeda. Abu Zubaydah News - The New York Times

The other guy was the MASTER MIND BEHIND 9/11.
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This whole argument is stupid. The point is we are waterboarding innocent people. That is the problem with torture IMO. I don't we have the right to do this to people who don't deserve it.

It is easy for you all to say that is a price we have to pay, because we aren't in their shoes. After we capture OSama, yes let's waterboard the heck outta him, but a lot of the people could be innocent.

Also it is proven these methods are not always effective. When being waterboarded you agree to almost anything just to make it stop. People even make up stories.
The people waterboarded certainly aren't innocent and the intelligence gained from this interrogation technique was successful in saving lives.

http://www.thewarpath.net/parking-lo...tml#post559663 (Mancow Waterboarded, Admits It's Torture)

http://www.thewarpath.net/parking-lo...tml#post560251 (Mancow Waterboarded, Admits It's Torture)
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Old 06-01-2009, 05:47 PM   #133
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Sorry guys, I didn't know that. I thought from some of the stuff I heard there was suspicion that it was more than just those three.

Now that I know all that, I find it more acceptable, but I still feel it will probably be abused if accepted(waterboarding). Torture law is black and white to my understanding, and for a good reason. The whole slippery slope deal.

Anyways it is a tough issue then, not as simple as I thoguht it was. Do we remain the high moral country or do ends justify means?
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