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Old 06-04-2009, 10:30 AM   #31
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Yeah sad thing what happened to Stewart.
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:46 AM   #32
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Weird story about Stewart. My mom was one of the leads on his autopsy and confirming his cause of death. So, a few days after his death, there's a message on our home answering machine (yeah it was answering machines back then) from one of her assistants saying "I left Payne Stewart's fingers on your desk for you to review. We'll catch up tomorrow" I think it was actually some bone and tissue, not his actual finger. But still...one of the oddest messages I've heard
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:05 AM   #33
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Weird story about Stewart. My mom was one of the leads on his autopsy and confirming his cause of death. So, a few days after his death, there's a message on our home answering machine (yeah it was answering machines back then) from one of her assistants saying "I left Payne Stewart's fingers on your desk for you to review. We'll catch up tomorrow" I think it was actually some bone and tissue, not his actual finger. But still...one of the oddest messages I've heard
that's creepy man
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Old 06-04-2009, 01:41 PM   #34
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Did the finger point to what cause his death?
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Old 06-04-2009, 02:12 PM   #35
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This sounds pretty terrifying. By this account, at least the passengers were passed out from the lack of cabin pressure before the plane went down. I think being awake as your plane is crashing would pretty much be the scariest thing imaginable.

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Old 06-04-2009, 02:36 PM   #36
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Thunderstorm 50,000 feet high... insane.

Hopefully those poor people went quick.
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Old 06-04-2009, 02:50 PM   #37
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Thunderstorm 50,000 feet high... insane.

Hopefully those poor people went quick.
I don't know if we have any aviation experts here, but if the thunderstorms have a "ceiling", in this case 50,000 feet, would it be possible to fly over the thundercloud?
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Thunderstorm 50,000 feet high... insane.

Hopefully those poor people went quick.

I think that has to do with the close proximity to the equator. Weather is really screwy around there. My stepdad was an engineer and worked on lots of boats, mostly for NASA and the Navy regarding rocket/missle tracking. He crossed over the equator many times, and had some pretty interesting stories about how bizarre the conditions are around the equator.
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I don't know if we have any aviation experts here, but if the thunderstorms have a "ceiling", in this case 50,000 feet, would it be possible to fly over the thundercloud?
I don't know that sounds really high. I don't think commercial airliners go above 45,000.

Even if they could have gone over it the article points out sometimes a storm forms around you and you're basically stuck.
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Thunderstorm 50,000 feet high... insane.

Hopefully those poor people went quick.
Sad part is it sounds like the storm slowly distroyed the plane. Not to make lite of the situation but they probably bounced around that plane like ping pong balls in bingo machine.
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absolutely. seems like in a car it would be driving along just fine then suddenly... CRASH!! in a airplane you already have that fear while your in the air then something goes wrong and as your plane is falling to the ground you have the terrifying and ufortinate realization that your going to die.
So really, then it's a matter of what scares you more. Seeing it coming-or not seeing it coming. I love to fly, every chance I get, I fly. That is to say, it doesn't happen often, because I never have the money to go anywhere. But if I did, I would fly all the time.


That being said, it IS safer then driving in a car, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily safe. Putting your life in the hands of a pilot that may or may not be a practicing alcoholic or too tired from flying 18 straight hours or whatever is definitely not safe. Safer, yes. Not safe. Shoot, walking across the street to 7-11 for a soda isn't safe anymore. Going to work isn't safe, or school. But it (flying) is safer.
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I was talking to some friends about the possibilities of what happened but it really does seem terrifying, even if they were all passed out. It become like what happened to Stewart expect the plane is slowly getting ripped apart...
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At least some families can find some closure now:

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Did the finger point to what cause his death?
No one else caught this?

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Re: Air France Jet Disappears on Flight From Brazil to Paris

this is so sad. first you lose a loved one in a horrible crash, then you actually get back their remains?? what's left?? i mean i can't imagine getting remains from a loved that fell 40,000 feet into the ocean, then the body, or what's left of it is floating in the ocean for a week. if it were me i'd just want my remains to stay in the ocean. sad very very sad and my heart goes out to the people and their famlies that lost loved ones.

i'm not expert on plane crashes but i remember reading about when john denver died and he crashed in the ocean. i think i read that he weighed 200lbs and they only found 100lbs of his body.
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