Iranian Election and Government Structure

saden1 · 06-16-2009, 09:42 AM

They couldn't have rigged it for a modest win? Does it even matter who the president is seeing how their government is structured?

KLHJ2 · 06-16-2009, 09:55 AM

Not really. It would be like McCain and Obama being in office at the same time. One would handle domestic affairs and the other handles the Military and foreign policy. In the end the dipshit with the most power has the final say.

BleedBurgundy · 06-16-2009, 10:04 AM

Ayatollah makes the rules. Ahmadinejad is the international face. Seriously, it's 2009 and there are still Theocracies. WTF?

12thMan · 06-16-2009, 10:20 AM

Good link Saden.

I think it does matters. While MA doesn't wield all the power in Iran, he's the public face for sure. And right now most --if not all-- of the public's anger is directed at him. But you guys make a good point, that flow chart is seriously complicated.

RobH4413 · 06-16-2009, 10:33 AM

The president is pretty much a face and that is all... (also... all presidential candidates are pre-approved by the government anyways sooo yeah)

Whats interesting is that the people are getting fired up. If that seed is planted it can and will grow. The people of Iran want democracy (especially the growing younger population)... they really do. They just don't want it implanted by the US, and with good reason.

Ayatollah is the leader, and he will keep that theocracy going at pretty much all costs.

firstdown · 06-16-2009, 10:37 AM

I just love how the news has covered the story. They first acted like how the election would be fair and all votes counted corectly. Then it was they are going to investigate the results and now they are going to do a recount. The whole time the media is all over themself ingnoring the fact that none of this is going to happen.

Schneed10 · 06-16-2009, 10:46 AM

It matters to Iranians because the President has the role of upholding their constitution which affects internal matters, but does it matter to the United States? Not really all that much. The Supreme Leader is in charge of all military decisions, so if Iran were to attack Israel or something that would be the Ayatollah's decision, not Ahmenijad's.

Ahmenijad is a public face and he goes out publicly threatening Israel, but in the end his opinion is only monitored to the extent that it reflects the opinion of the Ayatollah.

If the Ayatollah were the one coming out saying that Israel should be wiped off the face of the Earth, I'd be a lot more concerned.

firstdown · 06-16-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RobH4413

The president is pretty much a face and that is all... (also... all presidential candidates are pre-approved by the government anyways sooo yeah)

Whats interesting is that the people are getting fired up. If that seed is planted it can and will grow. The people of Iran want democracy (especially the growing younger population)... they really do. They just don't want it implanted by the US, and with good reason.

Ayatollah is the leader, and he will keep that theocracy going at pretty much all costs.

How has the US ever tried to force democracy on Iran? Yes presidents have talked about a democracy in Iran but that as far as it ever has gone. You do know this was all brought about because of Obama's speech a couple of weeks back and now democracy will spread like wild fire and we will all live as one.

SmootSmack · 06-16-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

How has the US ever tried to force democracy on Iran? Yes presidents have talked about a democracy in Iran but that as far as it ever has gone. You do know this was all brought about because of Obama's speech a couple of weeks back and now democracy will spread like wild fire and we will all live as one.

I think it's gone further than just talk

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Trample the Elderly · 06-16-2009, 12:44 PM

If I were the Israelis I'd attack now while they're at their weakest. After the attack I'd blame it all on Am-a-dick-jihad and the hardliners.

firstdown · 06-16-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think it's gone further than just talk

Electronic Briefing Book: The Secret CIA History of the Iran Coup

I was thinking more of current stuff and how presidents have treated Iran.

saden1 · 06-16-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

If I were the Israelis I'd attack now while they're at their weakest. After the attack I'd blame it all on Am-a-dick-jihad and the hardliners.

I sometimes wonder if you're a real person. Do you really exist or are you a character created by one of our members for their own musing?

SmootSmack · 06-16-2009, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firstdown

I was thinking more of current stuff and how presidents have treated Iran.

Sorry, your multiple use of the word ever had me thinking otherwise

firstdown · 06-16-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Sorry, your multiple use of the word ever had me thinking otherwise

Well you of all people should know that my hands don't type what my brain is thinking.

SmootSmack · 06-16-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Well you of all people should know that my hands don't type what my brain is thinking.

Smart move! Your noted inability to consistently form coherent sentences makes you exempt from having to back up your claims. It's like claiming mental insanity

06-16-2009, 09:42 AM	#1
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06-16-2009, 09:55 AM	#2
KLHJ2 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 34 Posts: 5,823	Re: Iranian Election and Government Structure Not really. It would be like McCain and Obama being in office at the same time. One would handle domestic affairs and the other handles the Military and foreign policy. In the end the dipshit with the most power has the final say. __________________ Read "The Book", life will gain meaning.

06-16-2009, 10:04 AM	#3
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,434	Re: Iranian Election and Government Structure Ayatollah makes the rules. Ahmadinejad is the international face. Seriously, it's 2009 and there are still Theocracies. WTF?

06-16-2009, 10:20 AM	#4
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,363	Re: Iranian Election and Government Structure Good link Saden. I think it does matters. While MA doesn't wield all the power in Iran, he's the public face for sure. And right now most --if not all-- of the public's anger is directed at him. But you guys make a good point, that flow chart is seriously complicated.

06-16-2009, 10:33 AM	#5
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 27 Posts: 2,382	Re: Iranian Election and Government Structure The president is pretty much a face and that is all... (also... all presidential candidates are pre-approved by the government anyways sooo yeah) Whats interesting is that the people are getting fired up. If that seed is planted it can and will grow. The people of Iran want democracy (especially the growing younger population)... they really do. They just don't want it implanted by the US, and with good reason. Ayatollah is the leader, and he will keep that theocracy going at pretty much all costs. __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

06-16-2009, 10:37 AM	#6
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 49 Posts: 15,206	Re: Iranian Election and Government Structure I just love how the news has covered the story. They first acted like how the election would be fair and all votes counted corectly. Then it was they are going to investigate the results and now they are going to do a recount. The whole time the media is all over themself ingnoring the fact that none of this is going to happen. Last edited by firstdown; 06-16-2009 at 10:54 AM.

06-16-2009, 10:46 AM	#7
Schneed10 RG Glee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 33 Posts: 7,897	Re: Iranian Election and Government Structure It matters to Iranians because the President has the role of upholding their constitution which affects internal matters, but does it matter to the United States? Not really all that much. The Supreme Leader is in charge of all military decisions, so if Iran were to attack Israel or something that would be the Ayatollah's decision, not Ahmenijad's. Ahmenijad is a public face and he goes out publicly threatening Israel, but in the end his opinion is only monitored to the extent that it reflects the opinion of the Ayatollah. If the Ayatollah were the one coming out saying that Israel should be wiped off the face of the Earth, I'd be a lot more concerned. __________________ Skins' Salary Cap Status \| CrazyCanuck's Cap Figures by Player \| Salary Cap 101

06-16-2009, 12:44 PM	#10
Trample the Elderly Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Three Chopt Virginia Age: 35 Posts: 2,906	Re: Iranian Election and Government Structure If I were the Israelis I'd attack now while they're at their weakest. After the attack I'd blame it all on Am-a-dick-jihad and the hardliners.

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