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Old 07-06-2009, 03:22 PM   #31
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No, and so far every thing they have done has failed and has cost the tax payers a bunch of money.
Well thanks for that analysis. Maybe I'll take this up in another thread on another day.
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Old 07-06-2009, 03:27 PM   #32
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Well thanks for that analysis. Maybe I'll take this up in another thread on another day.
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Old 07-06-2009, 04:10 PM   #33
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I just thought that maybe it was time to just use the words I see here very often when talking about the right.
Biden: We 'Misread the Economy' - George's Bottom Line
If "honest Joe" is not embarrassed, he should be.......
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Old 07-06-2009, 04:15 PM   #34
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On second thought (this is a repost), is there at least one thing - just one- you actually think President Obama is doing well?
I honestly am not working a set up on you.....but what do you view as the current administrations triumph's to date?
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I honestly am not working a set up on you.....but what do you view as the current administrations triumph's to date?
Well seven months into this admin, I wouldn't label anything a triumph. I wouldn't do it a year from now either.

Things he's done well, in my opinion. I could start with his visit to Russia today. Significant progress in the area of nuclear warheads. Significant. Anytime we get Russia to agree to reduce their nukes, along with ours, by a third that's a big deal. There were a few other good things that resulted in his visit to Russia. He's made some good and long overdue moves regarding Cuba too. Ditto the tone he's struck overall internationally.

In terms of domestic spending, which is one of the biggest sticking points by those on the right and some on the left quite frankly, we'll see. One thing's for sure, had McCain taken office, he would have taken similiar action. It may not have had the word "stimulus", but he would have taken similiar action. Probably to the tune of around $500 billion, instead of Obama's Neimen Maurcus taste of $787 billion.

If healthcare gets passed this year, no matter what version, I would most definitely chalk that up as a triumph.

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Palin done bagged herself, forgot to gag herself, and managed to toss herself in the river. Have a safe trip down the waterfall Ms. Palin because there's no getting up from this fall.
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Old 07-06-2009, 05:10 PM   #37
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Well seven months into this admin, I wouldn't label anything a triumph. I wouldn't do it a year from now either.

Things he's done well, in my opinion. I could start with his visit to Russia today. Significant progress in the area of nuclear warheads. Significant. Anytime we get Russia to agree to reduce their nukes, along with ours, by a third that's a big deal. There were a few other good things that resulted in his visit to Russia. He's made some good and long overdue moves regarding Cuba too. Ditto the tone he's struck overall internationally.

In terms of domestic spending, which is one of the biggest sticking points by those on the right and some on the left quite frankly, we'll see. One thing's for sure, had McCain taken office, he would have taken similiar action. It may not have had the word "stimulus", but he would have taken similiar action. Probably to the tune of around $500 billion, instead of Obama's Neimen Maurcus taste of $787 billion.

If healthcare gets passed this year, no matter what version, I would most definitely chalk that up as a triumph.
While as an American he is my President as well and I NEED him to be successful, I would really like to see some tangible results to the promises made. As you point out perhaps 7 months is early.
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While as an American he is my President as well and I NEED him to be successful, I would really like to see some tangible results to the promises made. As you point out perhaps 7 months is early.
Also you really have to keep the economy and the hand he was unfortunately dealt. I doubt McCain would have been doing significantly better in the current situation we are in.

Either way 2012 should be competitive.
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Also you really have to keep the economy and the hand he was unfortunately dealt. I doubt McCain would have been doing significantly better in the current situation we are in.

Either way 2012 should be competitive.
It's tough when your dealt a shit sandwich and asked to make a gourmet meal out of it, in a matter of months no less as opposed to the years it took to get to the shit sandwich state of affairs.
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Old 07-06-2009, 05:47 PM   #40
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Well the good news is unemployment is going up and the stock market is going down. Ops, sorry I was trying to find something I thought he did well. I'll keep trying 12th.
Off the top of my head, I believe the market is up since Obama has taken office. Not that that's of his doing anyway. But let's keep our fingers crossed on the economy. We ALL need it to recover.
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While as an American he is my President as well and I NEED him to be successful, I would really like to see some tangible results to the promises made. As you point out perhaps 7 months is early.
Good perspective. I like that you just aren't blinding declaring his presidency a failure already. People seem to like doing that even though it's barely been half a year.
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It's tough when your dealt a shit sandwich and asked to make a gourmet meal out of it, in a matter of months no less as opposed to the years it took to get to the shit sandwich state of affairs.
Agreed. I'm just not a big fan of his ideas for turning said shit sandwich into a gourmet meal.
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It's tough when your dealt a shit sandwich and asked to make a gourmet meal out of it, in a matter of months no less as opposed to the years it took to get to the shit sandwich state of affairs.
Yes, like he didn't make the sandwich along with F.Raines / J . Gorelick ...
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OpenSecrets | Update: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Invest in Lawmakers - Capital Eye... maybe Fannie Mae gave Dodd < Senate Finance Com. > and Obama all that money because they wanted to share the wealth ,,, not to keep the regulators off there backs ?
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Good perspective. I like that you just aren't blinding declaring his presidency a failure already. People seem to like doing that even though it's barely been half a year.
True , but they were calling Bush a failure in May of 2001 ...
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