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Old 07-06-2009, 06:02 PM   #46
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While as an American he is my President as well and I NEED him to be successful, I would really like to see some tangible results to the promises made. As you point out perhaps 7 months is early.
Good perspective. I like that you just aren't blinding declaring his presidency a failure already. People seem to like doing that even though it's barely been half a year.
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It's tough when your dealt a shit sandwich and asked to make a gourmet meal out of it, in a matter of months no less as opposed to the years it took to get to the shit sandwich state of affairs.
Agreed. I'm just not a big fan of his ideas for turning said shit sandwich into a gourmet meal.
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:17 PM   #48
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It's tough when your dealt a shit sandwich and asked to make a gourmet meal out of it, in a matter of months no less as opposed to the years it took to get to the shit sandwich state of affairs.
Yes, like he didn't make the sandwich along with F.Raines / J . Gorelick ...
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OpenSecrets | Update: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Invest in Lawmakers - Capital Eye... maybe Fannie Mae gave Dodd < Senate Finance Com. > and Obama all that money because they wanted to share the wealth ,,, not to keep the regulators off there backs ?
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Good perspective. I like that you just aren't blinding declaring his presidency a failure already. People seem to like doing that even though it's barely been half a year.
True , but they were calling Bush a failure in May of 2001 ...
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Off the top of my head, I believe the market is up since Obama has taken office. Not that that's of his doing anyway. But let's keep our fingers crossed on the economy. We ALL need it to recover.
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Best advice I have ever heard from Palin:

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Old 07-08-2009, 10:53 AM   #53
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Well seven months into this admin, I wouldn't label anything a triumph. I wouldn't do it a year from now either.

Things he's done well, in my opinion. I could start with his visit to Russia today. Significant progress in the area of nuclear warheads. Significant. Anytime we get Russia to agree to reduce their nukes, along with ours, by a third that's a big deal. There were a few other good things that resulted in his visit to Russia. He's made some good and long overdue moves regarding Cuba too. Ditto the tone he's struck overall internationally.

In terms of domestic spending, which is one of the biggest sticking points by those on the right and some on the left quite frankly, we'll see. One thing's for sure, had McCain taken office, he would have taken similiar action. It may not have had the word "stimulus", but he would have taken similiar action. Probably to the tune of around $500 billion, instead of Obama's Neimen Maurcus taste of $787 billion.

If healthcare gets passed this year, no matter what version, I would most definitely chalk that up as a triumph.


THis is what I don't get. You would think its a triumph even if its a bad bill? Maybe that explains why he gest a pass on everything he does.
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Just an observation I've had the past few elections that I can remember...

From president to president, year to year, who's daily life has truly been altered by the president in office? In my short life, really only the George Bush invasion of Iraq has been something that I can think that's affected the way I think, feel, act. I'm admittedly slightly more liberal even though I would say I fall ALMOST in the middle.

This isn't going to be another one of those arguments against the party system because I really don't know a whole lot about politics. One thing I DO know is that whether you're coming from the Democratic or Republican side it seems that all a lot of us want to do is take jabs at this person or that person when in reality it takes a lot for actual change.

Maybe it's because I've been sheltered in my little town I live in where we haven't seen huge economic problems, but over the years my life has changed very little no matter who has been in office. I really lack a lot of respect for George Bush mainly based on the fact that he was the only president to change my life for the worse. Maybe it was propaganda, maybe it's just me, but his invasion of Iraq makes me a lot more afraid (vigilant could also be used here) and honestly a little bit racist against Middle Easterners.

I could also thank him for the nice sixteen-hundred dollar check that we got in the mail. Maybe that was what led to the collapse of the economy, but pretty much all I've known over the years is that a president has made me a little more racist and has given me sixteen hundred dollars.

I'm a little disjointed here, but it's just something I've noticed since I don't really chime in on the political threads... Does anyone else notice this or am I alone?
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Old 07-08-2009, 02:37 PM   #55
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You're not alone. No POTUS has ever changed my life for the better or worse regardless of his policies.
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Just an observation I've had the past few elections that I can remember...

From president to president, year to year, who's daily life has truly been altered by the president in office? In my short life, really only the George Bush invasion of Iraq has been something that I can think that's affected the way I think, feel, act. I'm admittedly slightly more liberal even though I would say I fall ALMOST in the middle.

This isn't going to be another one of those arguments against the party system because I really don't know a whole lot about politics. One thing I DO know is that whether you're coming from the Democratic or Republican side it seems that all a lot of us want to do is take jabs at this person or that person when in reality it takes a lot for actual change.

Maybe it's because I've been sheltered in my little town I live in where we haven't seen huge economic problems, but over the years my life has changed very little no matter who has been in office. I really lack a lot of respect for George Bush mainly based on the fact that he was the only president to change my life for the worse. Maybe it was propaganda, maybe it's just me, but his invasion of Iraq makes me a lot more afraid (vigilant could also be used here) and honestly a little bit racist against Middle Easterners.

I could also thank him for the nice sixteen-hundred dollar check that we got in the mail. Maybe that was what led to the collapse of the economy, but pretty much all I've known over the years is that a president has made me a little more racist and has given me sixteen hundred dollars.

I'm a little disjointed here, but it's just something I've noticed since I don't really chime in on the political threads... Does anyone else notice this or am I alone?
You don't think 9/11 had anything to do with any of the racist feelings you may have.
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Old 07-08-2009, 04:35 PM   #57
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You can't lay it at the feet of the POTUS (solely) but these bailouts are going to affect future generations' every day lives. If Obama can get this healthcare legislation passed, it has a real world impact for millions of citizens. I didn't vote for the guy, but that's one hell of an accomplishment in the first 7-9 months in office.
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You can't lay it at the feet of the POTUS (solely) but these bailouts are going to affect future generations' every day lives. If Obama can get this healthcare legislation passed, it has a real world impact for millions of citizens. I didn't vote for the guy, but that's one hell of an accomplishment in the first 7-9 months in office.
I can say the same that the goverment has not ever really done anything to drastically change my life style. I'd say the biggest thing would have to be tax increases. If they get the Crap & Trade through and Health Care I don't think any of use will be able to say that again.
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I can say the same that the goverment has not ever really done anything to drastically change my life style. I'd say the biggest thing would have to be tax increases. If they get the Crap & Trade through and Health Care I don't think any of use will be able to say that again.
After I hit enter I realized that the first part of what I said is not true and I need to recant that statement. Social Security will have a hugh impact on when I can retire and how much money I will have. I know people say don't depend on SS for your retirement which I agree but I'm talking about the money they take and its effect. If they did not take that money from me each month (I pay double as self emp.) I could have used that money to invest and have alot more choices on when I retire and also have a WHOLE LOT MORE MONEY to retire on.
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You don't think 9/11 had anything to do with any of the racist feelings you may have.
Not really. Had it not been for the invasion of Iraq after the attack I would have assumed it was just a single extremist group. Like I said above, maybe it was me, but still my feelings on George Bush are the same.
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