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Old 08-19-2009, 05:33 PM   #166
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first, you seem intent on ripping Obama every chance you get. how about you naming some things that your President( Bush) did right? and the B.J. thing with Clinton, you approved of his presidency, other then that?
Bush positives: - concept of No Child Left Behind
- Tax cuts resulting in 52 consecutive months of job creation
- minimized federal funding of abortion
- Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act
- Global HIV/AIDS funding
- instrumental in expanding NATO alliance
- Roberts & Alito and other strict constructionalist judge appointments.
- consolidated and reformed intelligence sharing
- parts of Homeland Security (agencies under HS should've consolidated more to reduce costs not as much new spending)
- Bush Admin thwarted additional terrorist attempts to attack US citizens/interests.
- Afghanistan (should've had better long term strategy)
- Iraq (actual war well executed, long term strategy not-so-much.) Troop surge worked though.
- Response to early 2000s (Clinton) recession.
- Economic Stimulus Act (mostly tax rebates)
- Do Not Call Act
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Old 08-19-2009, 08:21 PM   #167
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first, you seem intent on ripping Obama every chance you get. how about you naming some things that your President( Bush) did right? and the B.J. thing with Clinton, you approved of his presidency, other then that?
This is not a Bush issue...we already had a thread on what Bush did right...let's focus on Obama. Bush has NOTHING to do with what Obama has done right or wrong. The country wanted "change", well they got their wish...let's move on.
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Old 08-19-2009, 08:27 PM   #168
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This is not a Bush issue...we already had a thread on what Bush did right...let's focus on Obama. Bush has NOTHING to do with what Obama has done right or wrong. The country wanted "change", well they got their wish...let's move on.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?! Bush has a TON to do with how Obama is doing. Think of it in football terms: you have one head coach for 8 years who sets the team up a certain way. When he leaves the team and a new coach comes in there is bound to be some carry over. If the old coach left the team in ruins its clearly going to take the new guy a little while to get everything sorted out. If the old coach left the team in a strong state it's up to the new guy to at least keep the good times going.

And don't you think that "the country wanted 'change'" because there were a ton of people who thought Bush was doing a ton of damage and that someone like McCain would not do enough to reverse the trend? People didn't want change just for shits and giggles.
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Old 08-19-2009, 09:01 PM   #169
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ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?! Bush has a TON to do with how Obama is doing. Think of it in football terms: you have one head coach for 8 years who sets the team up a certain way. When he leaves the team and a new coach comes in there is bound to be some carry over. If the old coach left the team in ruins its clearly going to take the new guy a little while to get everything sorted out. If the old coach left the team in a strong state it's up to the new guy to at least keep the good times going.

And don't you think that "the country wanted 'change'" because there were a ton of people who thought Bush was doing a ton of damage and that someone like McCain would not do enough to reverse the trend? People didn't want change just for shits and giggles.
If we get into Bush (again, for the 1 millionth time on this site) then going after Obama full strength will be in order. Bush bashing has been common play here for quite some time, we are talking about what Obama has done right. My point was to say this is an obama thread, not Bush.
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Old 08-19-2009, 10:06 PM   #170
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I had to think long and hard about this one. But there were a couple of things the Obama administration has done that I agree with...

No more DEA raids on dispensers of medical marijuana and he cut funding for the absurd "abstinence only" programs.

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If we get into Bush (again, for the 1 millionth time on this site) then going after Obama full strength will be in order. Bush bashing has been common play here for quite some time, we are talking about what Obama has done right. My point was to say this is an obama thread, not Bush.
come on and man up. you wanted people to post here with rips towards Obama. just by the way the original thread was worded. and to say that Bush has no bearing on how Obama is doing is down right stupid
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Old 08-20-2009, 05:45 AM   #172
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This is what I've been saying for awhile. The Federal Government should leave people alone, at home and abroad.
Is it possible to have a functional government that doesn't act in it's own best interests?

It's a pretty deep question when you think about it. We could have a totally isolationist foreign policy, no UN, no NATO, etc, but when situations arise where it's COMPLETELY obvious that's the correct move is to meddle in the business of others, do you stay true to isolationist ideals?

If not, where is the line drawn?
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ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?! Bush has a TON to do with how Obama is doing.
Very true...although it's interesting to note that when anyone mentioned how actions taken (or not taken) during the Clinton administration may have impacted the Bush administration that was usually brushed aside. Every president affects future presidents. It didn't just start with Bush/Obama
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:32 AM   #175
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Is it possible to have a functional government that doesn't act in it's own best interests?

It's a pretty deep question when you think about it. We could have a totally isolationist foreign policy, no UN, no NATO, etc, but when situations arise where it's COMPLETELY obvious that's the correct move is to meddle in the business of others, do you stay true to isolationist ideals?

If not, where is the line drawn?
The government needs to operate in the interest of the people it represents. It isn't an entity in itself.

Name me some situations where it was obvious to meddle in the affairs of others. Who said isolationist? That's your flawed interpretation of my poistion.
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:39 AM   #176
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Bush positives: - concept of No Child Left Behind
- Tax cuts resulting in 52 consecutive months of job creation
- minimized federal funding of abortion
- Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act
- Global HIV/AIDS funding
- instrumental in expanding NATO alliance
- Roberts & Alito and other strict constructionalist judge appointments.
- consolidated and reformed intelligence sharing
- parts of Homeland Security (agencies under HS should've consolidated more to reduce costs not as much new spending)
- Bush Admin thwarted additional terrorist attempts to attack US citizens/interests.
- Afghanistan (should've had better long term strategy)
- Iraq (actual war well executed, long term strategy not-so-much.) Troop surge worked though.
- Response to early 2000s (Clinton) recession.
- Economic Stimulus Act (mostly tax rebates)
- Do Not Call Act
It's a sad day when the left think those things are conservative. If he had a D next to his name they would've circled the wagons around him and said he was a centrist.
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:46 AM   #177
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Very true...although it's interesting to note that when anyone mentioned how actions taken (or not taken) during the Clinton administration may have impacted the Bush administration that was usually brushed aside. Every president affects future presidents. It didn't just start with Bush/Obama
Yup. Just another point proving that hypocrisy is the most common political trend.
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One good thing, IMO, is that he got the F-22 canceled.

In my opinion, just like UHC should wait, so should advanced fighters/weapon systems.
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come on and man up. you wanted people to post here with rips towards Obama. just by the way the original thread was worded. and to say that Bush has no bearing on how Obama is doing is down right stupid
That's your choice what you want to believe. I had honest intentions. Just cause I don't like Obama doesn't mean I am not willing to hear about what he has done well. No way is someone completely bad all the time. Everyone has positives, I already explained this. There are blind Obama lovers here which is why my first post displaying my dislike for him wasn't taken well. It really doesn't matter...you can make this about what he has done right, or not...it's completely up to the Obama fans. This thread could be about what he has done right if you were willing to actually make it that way instead of trying to see the negative. If you haven't noticed, I have not attacked ANY of his negatives, in fact I actually stood up for him when someone said "He's not even american".
You can see what you want, I can't do anything about that.
Yes, I dislike Obama.
No, I am not willing to close my ears to the positive he has done.
Yes, it's that simple.
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Old 08-20-2009, 02:19 PM   #180
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OK Demek25 I have a positive for Obama. While watching the guys put new windows in my house I thought about the $1500 tax break I will get because of Obama. So his tax break for up grading windows is something he has done well/right. I get a tax break and the window guy gets the job. SS answered the Bush ? for me and no I was not a big fan of Clintons. The one thing with Clinton is that the Rep had control of congress so Clinton could only do but so much.
I got new windows under the Bush administration and they were deducted off my yearly taxes...is that what you are referring to, or was there an actual program to give you a tax break as well as you will get the deductions on your yearly taxes? Or a separation of the two? I am confused on that.
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