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Old 09-10-2009, 12:06 PM   #31
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I know you always like to make it a left/right issue, but it's not. Both sides are guilty of the same crap.
Then both sides ought to shut the f*ck up about it (channeling my inner-saden there). It's disingenuous for all the Bush bashers to rail on this guy and be dismissive of legitimate concerns that the Dems have done it also. Intentionally or not the argument sounds like "It's ok for people I agree with to do something like this but if I don't agree with them then they need to shut up." The general tone of the current administration and party of power towards those that disagree, dismissive and condescending, only strengthens that image.
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:07 PM   #32
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He did no such thing. You can call it whatever you want but at end of the day there will be an option to get heath care through the government.
To my progressive friends, I would remind you that for decades, the driving idea behind reform has been to end insurance company abuses and make coverage affordable for those without it. The public option is only a means to that end and we should remain open to other ideas that accomplish our ultimate goal.

I guess we interpret this differently, only time will tell.
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:08 PM   #33
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The last time I was in the emergency room I was in there with a bunch of illegals. I had to pay for my visit because my full coverage insurance (Anthem) refused to pay. Those illegals paid nothing. I paid for them and me.

Now Barrack says I have to get insurance. As if my health belongs to the Federal Government. Since when do others get the right to decide for me what is best for me? The arrogance and subservience of the progressives is astonishing. You'll make great pets.

Barrack Obama is a liar and a thief. He's no different than the other liar and thief that just left. Do you hear the printing presses running? That's the sound of poverty.
I'm not gonna act like I know the first thing about health coverage, I was uninsured for about a good year until my college forced me to take insurance this year.

So this might sound like a dumb question.

But why didn't your insurance cover your visit?
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:14 PM   #34
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To my progressive friends, I would remind you that for decades, the driving idea behind reform has been to end insurance company abuses and make coverage affordable for those without it. The public option is only a means to that end and we should remain open to other ideas that accomplish our ultimate goal.

I guess we interpret this differently, only time will tell.
It's called re-branding. Political Marketing 101.

What he is really saying is I really don't care how so long as what we want gets done.

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Old 09-10-2009, 12:59 PM   #35
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I'm not gonna act like I know the first thing about health coverage, I was uninsured for about a good year until my college forced me to take insurance this year.

So this might sound like a dumb question.

But why didn't your insurance cover your visit?
Good question? They just told me they didn't cover emergency room visits. So I told them I'd just pay my doctor cash from now on and didn't need their service.
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:39 PM   #36
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Good question? They just told me they didn't cover emergency room visits. So I told them I'd just pay my doctor cash from now on and didn't need their service.
And you didn't already know this? I've never heard of a plan that didn't cover emergency rooms visits in some way...as long as they were necessary.
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:49 PM   #37
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I have Anthem in Virginia like yourself and they have paid for two emergency room visits and sense we are in the same state we should have the same type policy.
I have Anthem too. My company is based in VA, but I recently visited the ER here in DC. I had bed bugs! Ouch. The doctor gave me a prescription for some lotion that was covered under my plan. This lotion cost $110, but I only paid $10 out of pocket. I thought it was a good deal.
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Old 09-10-2009, 02:04 PM   #38
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God I really hate when you guys descend into a bipartisan back-and-forth divided right down party lines. These discussions have become such drivel.

Political talk on the Warpath was good for a while, but sadly nobody wants to analyze the issues or present ideas anymore. I don't think it's worthwhile for me to try to add to the discussion anymore.
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Old 09-10-2009, 02:39 PM   #39
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God I really hate when you guys descend into a bipartisan back-and-forth divided right down party lines. These discussions have become such drivel.

Political talk on the Warpath was good for a while, but sadly nobody wants to analyze the issues or present ideas anymore. I don't think it's worthwhile for me to try to add to the discussion anymore.
For what it's worth, on these health care threads I basically skip everyone's posts but yours...if that makes you feel any better
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I have Anthem too. My company is based in VA, but I recently visited the ER here in DC. I had bed bugs! Ouch. The doctor gave me a prescription for some lotion that was covered under my plan. This lotion cost $110, but I only paid $10 out of pocket. I thought it was a good deal.
It puts the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the bed bugs again.

(sorry, I really had to)
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Old 09-10-2009, 02:45 PM   #41
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And you didn't already know this? I've never heard of a plan that didn't cover emergency rooms visits in some way...as long as they were necessary.
my girl tried to sign up for health insurance, she went with blue cross blue shield. when we got the ton of paper work and policy explanation it took me 3 hrs to figure out she had a $10,000 yearly deductible.

that means that she has to spend $10,000 in one year and anything after that is covered by her insurance. she joked, 'so what? am i only covered if i get into a plane crash?' . . . .sadly she was dead on. (pun intended)

something has to give with health care. i pay upwards of 200 plus bucks a month to have the best health insurance around. im worried that this new bill if passed would increase my costs plus burden the fed govt deficeit. when this is all said and done i will probably drop my premium health insurance and go the govt route become the leach i despise so much.

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Old 09-10-2009, 02:53 PM   #42
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For what it's worth, on these health care threads I basically skip everyone's posts buts yours...if that makes you feel any better
Well that doesn't exactly make me feel better.
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Well that doesn't exactly make me feel better.
Is your pain covered by your current health insurance?
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Old 09-10-2009, 03:12 PM   #44
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Is your pain covered by your current health insurance?
I don't know if this emotional turmoil I'm experiencing is covered by Anthem. I'll check though.
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Old 09-10-2009, 03:16 PM   #45
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For what it's worth, on these health care threads I basically skip everyone's posts but yours...if that makes you feel any better
Well at least someone's getting something out of it. Glad to hear there's still an appetite to talk about the issues intelligently.

It's just tough to keep at it when you need to read through 3 pages of garbage just to find the one post by someone who has something meaningful to add.

Frustrated!
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