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Old 11-04-2009, 04:19 PM   #31
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Never hear me bring up RR and if you mix black and white you get gray.
Well maybe you don't, but everytime I listen to Sean Hannity, Beck, ummm Limbaugh and some here even, they constantly bring up Reagan.

The key word in your response is "mix".
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:40 PM   #32
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What you said was, "that no one could run and win on Conservative principles". You are wrong. Someone did, and won by landslides. Congress controls spending. Reagan's Congress was Democratic. Clinton didn't get to put in his commie agenda. His Congress was Republican.

Name some expensive toys Congress didn't pay for. The last time I checked the Missouri was taken out of moth balls. SDI was never implemented? At the time the US and the USSR were reducing their nuclear stock piles?

You're a real piece of work Saden. You liberals sure are a hateful breed.
What I said was no one will run and win on a hardcore conservatives platform this day an age... you know, kick the illegals all out of the country sort of principles, go back to the gold standards stupidity, get rid social programs, etc, etc. I was skeptical of your reading skills, now I'm even more skeptical of you comprehension skills.

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Old 11-04-2009, 04:43 PM   #33
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And let me say that Reagan's magic wasn't his policies. It was his ability to listen to the other side. He didn't give conservatism a bad name. He was a respectful man and honored the office. Sure he made some missteps, but every president does.

Where do you think Blue Dog Dems originated from? It was Reagan. Yet today they identify with and caucus with Democrats. Modern day Republicans and conservatives found no room for them in the party.
Reagan was a lot smarter than the buffoons wielding his name for conservative street cred today. Very smart politician.
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Old 11-04-2009, 05:43 PM   #34
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Why do conservatives constantly hearken back to the Reagan era to prove their point about the enduring quality of conservative principles. Reagan was for his time. Lincoln was for his time. So forth and so on. Today we live in a completely different climate. Demographically the country has evolved and continues to do so. The globe has changed for that matter. Politics are more interconnected and simply require more compromise on some key issues. I guess what I'm saying is the world isn't as black and white as it was, say, twenty or thirty years ago.

My main issue if with Republicans, and some liberals for that matter, they tend to view the world in terms of absolutes. They don't debate shades of grey, only black and white.
The same reason that Redskins fans look back to the glory days or RFK, JKC, and Joe Gibbs (1.0). It was a great time compared to the BS we have now.
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Old 11-04-2009, 05:46 PM   #35
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The same reason that Redskins fans look back to the glory days or RFK, JKC, and Joe Gibbs 1.0, it was a great time compared to the BS we have now.
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:08 PM   #36
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i think the results from yesterdays elections in va. and nj were a small way of telling obama that people are not very happy with his presidency thus far. obama campained pretty hard for deeds, here in va.
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:10 PM   #37
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What I said was no one will run and win on a hardcore conservatives platform this day an age... you know, kick the illegals all out of the country sort of principles, go back to the gold standards stupidity, get rid social programs, etc, etc. I was skeptical of your reading skills, now I'm even more skeptical of you comprehension skills.

Freeze, the jig is up, put your hands up buster or I'll shoot!
Oh, so you doubt my reading skills eh? Well if it makes you feel better, I've never underestimated how snide you can be.

You're absolutely right. No one would want to run on those issues you spoke about. I mean obeying the laws, that's for the little people right?

(1) Don't put any faith in you illegal buddies. When the good ship US starts to sink, they'll flee like rats.

(2) Yeah, India just bought a shit load of gold. The Chinese are buying as much as they can. Both of them are slowly dropping the dollar. I guess they're not as smart as you are Saden.

FT.com / Global Economy - Gold extends record high on India purchase

(3) I'm not worried about any of it. You liberals will not be able to float all of those free meals forever. Eventually the piper comes to collect.
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Actually over half of those people who voted republican in VA said that it was just because Creigh Deeds had ideas with no plan. Not so much that they are opposed to the Obama administration.
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Actually over half of those people who voted republican in VA said that it was just because Creigh Deeds had ideas with no plan. Not so much that they are opposed to the Obama administration.
He ran a horrible campaign. People in the area are so pissed at Deeds right now. Water under the bridge, I guess.
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:18 PM   #40
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Actually over half of those people who voted republican in VA said that it was just because Creigh Deeds had ideas with no plan. Not so much that they are opposed to the Obama administration.
I don't remember hearing any of Deed's ideas that were worth a damn?

All McDonnell had to say was, "I'll drill for oil". Bam! You've got my vote!
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Actually over half of those people who voted republican in VA said that it was just because Creigh Deeds had ideas with no plan. Not so much that they are opposed to the Obama administration.
where did you see this? a poll? the media? believe me, it's a direct punch thrown at obama.
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:27 PM   #42
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where did you see this? a poll? the media? believe me, it's a direct punch thrown at obama.
Yes, the exit polling absolutely verified this wasn't a referendum on Obama. The party chair and every Republican talking head also said as much.

Democrats can't afford to ignore this, but it wasn't some kinda of message to Obama either. At least not yet. This had everything to do with Deeds and the type of campaign he ran.
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Don't worry. If you like John McCain, John Warner, and Eric Cantor, there is a place for you. It's called the Democrat Party. They have a socially conservative / socialist economic wing to their party. You might find some friends there.

I'm not trying to be cute either. There's no use in having all of your eggs in one basket. I'd vote for an independent or a libertarian if there was one worth voting for. If you want a socially liberal / fiscally conservative candidate, be a libertarian.

The Republicans are who they are.
This is why I find the Libertarian party appealing. Even though I know you warned me against jumping ship too fast because they are far to the right.

I'm definitely socially liberal (bearing arms, gay marriage, whatever. As long as you're not messing things up for me and getting in the way of what I wanna do, go for it.. is my motto) as for fiscally, I think I might sit on the fence.

There are some things (yes like "art") that I do like that gets funded, but other things like welfare is out of control and honestly, I think we're better off without it. I'm friends with people who are on welfare and they use that shit like a crutch. My close friend was considering applying for food stamps and I practically bitched her out. She works full time, goes to school full time and doesn't even live in state. She lives in an area with a lower cost of living than we do here. She didn't NEED them. Just wanted them so she could have extra money in her pocket at the end of the month. Pissed me the hell off. I bitched so hard, I talked her out of it.

But honestly, I'd rather have the government practically invisible than being Big Brother in my life.
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What I said was no one will run and win on a hardcore conservatives platform this day an age... you know, kick the illegals all out of the country sort of principles, go back to the gold standards stupidity, get rid social programs, etc, etc. I was skeptical of your reading skills, now I'm even more skeptical of you comprehension skills.

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I do not know of any politicians that want to end social programs . I do believe that most do not want massive welfare, paid for by hard working Americans . If liberals want something , why can't you work for it ? I always hear Liberals/progressive's saying how smart they are and how stupid Conservatives are . Yet , libs/prog's always say repub's have all the money and run all of our big business's ? I hear the left always crying " I worked 30 years and have nothing " . If libs are smart , why can't they run a business , how can a smart libs work 30 years and end up with "nothing " . Not one of my relatives or friends who are Repubs have money problems ? Maybe Libs just spend too much time complaining , getting stoned , worshiping celebrities and spend too much time tanning
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I do not know of any politicians that want to end social programs . I do believe that most do not want massive welfare, paid for by hard working Americans . If liberals want something , why can't you work for it ? I always hear Liberals/progressive's saying how smart they are and how stupid Conservatives are . Yet , libs/prog's always say repub's have all the money and run all of our big business's ? I hear the left always crying " I worked 30 years and have nothing " . If libs are smart , why can't they run a business , how can a smart libs work 30 years and end up with "nothing " . Not one of my relatives or friends who are Repubs have money problems ? Maybe Libs just spend too much time complaining , getting stoned , worshiping celebrities and spend too much time tanning
Hey I work and get stoned. It's all about balance baby.
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