Climategate

saden1 · 12-03-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

That link is pretty usless now that we know that the data has been twisted to meet their needs.

Really? Thanks for clarifying, I wasn't sure the same team has been putting out all the research used by every geo-scientist.

I hear you piss in the sea when you go fishing...what impact do you think that has on the environment?

budw38 · 12-03-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Really? Thanks for clarifying, I wasn't sure the same team has been putting out all the research used by every geo-scientist.

I hear you piss in the sea when you go fishing...what impact do you think that has on the environment?

As long as Firstdown doesn't piss in a pool Im swimming in , Im fine with him pissing in a river / sea . I just hope some grandma on her little yacht doesn't see too much of first and put him on youtube

dmek25 · 12-03-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmpetert

agreI think we all know that most rational people e Global Warming is at best a scheme Al Gore has created to achieve notoriety (seeing failed presidential bid, and claim to have created the internet), but for obvious fraud to have occurred and major news networks to not report it is ridiculous:

"An examination of morning and evening news programs on ABC, CBS and NBC since Nov. 20 yielded zero mentions of the scandal, even in the Nov. 25 reports about Obama going to Copenhagen to discuss the need for emissions reductions," the Institute reported Wednesday.
But during that time, the Institute says, "the networks reported on pro-golfer Tiger Woods' 'minor' car accident at least 37 times. They also found time to report on an orphaned Moose and the meal selection at the president’s State Dinner."
Media Research Center President Brent Bozell reacted to the findings saying, "To pretend this story simply doesn’t exist is damning to journalism."

Comedy Central Scoops Network News on Climate-Gate Scandal - Science News | Science & Technology | Technology News - FOXNews.com

Obama science advisers grilled over hacked e-mails - Yahoo! News

this is a ridiculous statement

mlmdub130 · 12-03-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Really? Thanks for clarifying, I wasn't sure the same team has been putting out all the research used by every geo-scientist.

I hear you piss in the sea when you go fishing...what impact do you think that has on the environment?

well if i'm fishing i'm probably on a boat, and if i'm on a boat i'm probably drinking, so i probably don't care what impact it has on the enviornment, but i will say i do recycle instead of sinkin em, cause littering causes global warming

Chico23231 · 12-03-2009, 06:55 PM

All I know is that since the beginning of industrial revolution all these man made polutants rising up into the ozone and the atmosphere cant be good for the planet. Just like all the poluntants flowing into the Cheasepeake bay is not good for water life. Is it to the extent of the warming the Earth that the left is wanting you to believe, probably not. But say in 500 to a thousand years from now if the pace continues there will probably be very negative effects. Over population will probably be a relative issue as well in this country in the next 200 years. I think advances in technology will help, but if we start now trying to make changes now it cant hurt, can it?

htownskinfan · 12-04-2009, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

this is a ridiculous statement

agreed

souperbad · 12-04-2009, 09:55 AM

I really don't care if Global Warming/Climate Change is real or not. I don't have to because I generally support all the remedies anyway. I am generally against pollution so I really don't care about Global Warming.

This climategate thing is interesting ( I have also heard being called "Warmaquiddick" ). It needs to be looked into.

The problem is that it is so hard to understand what these e-mails actually mean because I am not a scientist....and most people are not. So it would be nice to have some reputable scientists take a look at it and explain what is going on to everybody.

And now it appears that there is no data... no one has been able to see the real data for years and now all the data is gone so no one can recreate the calculations anyway.

firstdown · 12-04-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Really? Thanks for clarifying, I wasn't sure the same team has been putting out all the research used by every geo-scientist.

I hear you piss in the sea when you go fishing...what impact do you think that has on the environment?

No different then someone at the beach taking a leak in the water. Nothing ever goes over the side of my boat but lines and a little pi$$ now and then. Nothing tics me off anymore then people throwing their trash out their windows, boat, or where erver else they toss their crap. I'm not saying that its a rep or dem thing about the reaserch its was an agenda by them to screw with the numbers. Now that we know the scientist have an agenda its what done about it that I'm concerned with. Right now on the left they are talking about going after the hacker not the scientist who screwed us.

mlmpetert · 12-04-2009, 10:17 AM

Alright I was watching some Keith Olberman last night and MSNBC finally mentioned it. I guess Fox ran a piece that showed the John Stewart clip where he jokingly says Global Warming has been completely debunked. Well Fox convientely left out something Jon said immediately after that statement where he basically said that the whole covering up of key data just takes away some of the creditability of the “researchers”. So Olberman’s acknowledgment of the data cover up that discredits the Global Warming fundamentalist was only to call out Fox, not to mention that this is a serious current event.

Shows like O’Reilly and Hannity, or Olberman and Maddow obviously don’t break news and primarily report opinions. I would also guess most of their viewers are already well informed, or have already made up their mind supporting the ideals or values of the shows anchor, or are simply looking for a entertaining “news” program. So for Olberman to mention this doesn’t really count as reporting it, and not just because he only used it to attack Fox, but because of the style of his show (much like O’Reilly). During the 5-8 real news reporting this issue should be mentioned, because that is where true journalism is supposed to occur on the cable news networks (minus Chris Mathews).

mlmpetert · 12-04-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

this is a ridiculous statement

Just trying lighten it up a little

mlmpetert · 12-04-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

All I know is that since the beginning of industrial revolution all these man made polutants rising up into the ozone and the atmosphere cant be good for the planet. Just like all the poluntants flowing into the Cheasepeake bay is not good for water life. Is it to the extent of the warming the Earth that the left is wanting you to believe, probably not. But say in 500 to a thousand years from now if the pace continues there will probably be very negative effects. Over population will probably be a relative issue as well in this country in the next 200 years. I think advances in technology will help, but if we start now trying to make changes now it cant hurt, can it?

Not just this country, the world.

firstdown · 12-04-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by budw38

As long as Firstdown doesn't piss in a pool Im swimming in , Im fine with him pissing in a river / sea . I just hope some grandma on her little yacht doesn't see too much of first and put him on youtube

Grandma would be laughing to hard to record anything and if she did she better have a zoom lense. I actually have a toilet on the boat but its reserved for the ladies because its nasty to deal with.

budw38 · 12-04-2009, 12:37 PM

I hear we are going to potty train Bears, cougars < the 4 leg types

> , Racoons , Rabbits , Wolves , Cows and others ... put port-a-pottys out in the woods , to cut down on animal waste

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dmek25 · 12-04-2009, 12:44 PM

wouldn't one be alittle naive to think we can put all of this crap into the air, water, and underground, without any consequences? im no scientist, but it seems like common sense

BleedBurgundy · 12-04-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1;

I hear you piss in the sea when you go fishing...what impact do you think that has on the environment?

What environmentally friendly restrooms are the fish using? Where do they take a piss? Oh, that's right...

12-03-2009, 06:55 PM	#20
Chico23231 Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 36 Posts: 7,799	Re: Climategate All I know is that since the beginning of industrial revolution all these man made polutants rising up into the ozone and the atmosphere cant be good for the planet. Just like all the poluntants flowing into the Cheasepeake bay is not good for water life. Is it to the extent of the warming the Earth that the left is wanting you to believe, probably not. But say in 500 to a thousand years from now if the pace continues there will probably be very negative effects. Over population will probably be a relative issue as well in this country in the next 200 years. I think advances in technology will help, but if we start now trying to make changes now it cant hurt, can it? __________________ Ready for the Draft.

12-04-2009, 09:55 AM	#22
souperbad Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Falls Church, VA Age: 38 Posts: 31	Re: Climategate I really don't care if Global Warming/Climate Change is real or not. I don't have to because I generally support all the remedies anyway. I am generally against pollution so I really don't care about Global Warming. This climategate thing is interesting ( I have also heard being called "Warmaquiddick" ). It needs to be looked into. The problem is that it is so hard to understand what these e-mails actually mean because I am not a scientist....and most people are not. So it would be nice to have some reputable scientists take a look at it and explain what is going on to everybody. And now it appears that there is no data... no one has been able to see the real data for years and now all the data is gone so no one can recreate the calculations anyway. __________________ Goddamn Bitch set me up! -Marion Barry

12-04-2009, 10:17 AM	#24
mlmpetert Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond Posts: 3,208	Re: Climategate Alright I was watching some Keith Olberman last night and MSNBC finally mentioned it. I guess Fox ran a piece that showed the John Stewart clip where he jokingly says Global Warming has been completely debunked. Well Fox convientely left out something Jon said immediately after that statement where he basically said that the whole covering up of key data just takes away some of the creditability of the “researchers”. So Olberman’s acknowledgment of the data cover up that discredits the Global Warming fundamentalist was only to call out Fox, not to mention that this is a serious current event. Shows like O’Reilly and Hannity, or Olberman and Maddow obviously don’t break news and primarily report opinions. I would also guess most of their viewers are already well informed, or have already made up their mind supporting the ideals or values of the shows anchor, or are simply looking for a entertaining “news” program. So for Olberman to mention this doesn’t really count as reporting it, and not just because he only used it to attack Fox, but because of the style of his show (much like O’Reilly). During the 5-8 real news reporting this issue should be mentioned, because that is where true journalism is supposed to occur on the cable news networks (minus Chris Mathews). __________________ https://constitutionminute.hillsdale.edu/episode1

12-04-2009, 12:37 PM	#28
budw38 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern,Va. Posts: 2,126	Re: Climategate I hear we are going to potty train Bears, cougars < the 4 leg types > , Racoons , Rabbits , Wolves , Cows and others ... put port-a-pottys out in the woods , to cut down on animal waste .

12-04-2009, 12:44 PM	#29
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,442	Re: Climategate wouldn't one be alittle naive to think we can put all of this crap into the air, water, and underground, without any consequences? im no scientist, but it seems like common sense __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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