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Old 12-03-2009, 06:23 PM   #16
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agreI think we all know that most rational people e Global Warming is at best a scheme Al Gore has created to achieve notoriety (seeing failed presidential bid, and claim to have created the internet), but for obvious fraud to have occurred and major news networks to not report it is ridiculous:

"An examination of morning and evening news programs on ABC, CBS and NBC since Nov. 20 yielded zero mentions of the scandal, even in the Nov. 25 reports about Obama going to Copenhagen to discuss the need for emissions reductions," the Institute reported Wednesday.
But during that time, the Institute says, "the networks reported on pro-golfer Tiger Woods' 'minor' car accident at least 37 times. They also found time to report on an orphaned Moose and the meal selection at the president’s State Dinner."
Media Research Center President Brent Bozell reacted to the findings saying, "To pretend this story simply doesn’t exist is damning to journalism."

Comedy Central Scoops Network News on Climate-Gate Scandal - Science News | Science & Technology | Technology News - FOXNews.com

Obama science advisers grilled over hacked e-mails - Yahoo! News
this is a ridiculous statement
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Old 12-03-2009, 06:43 PM   #17
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Really? Thanks for clarifying, I wasn't sure the same team has been putting out all the research used by every geo-scientist.

I hear you piss in the sea when you go fishing...what impact do you think that has on the environment?
well if i'm fishing i'm probably on a boat, and if i'm on a boat i'm probably drinking, so i probably don't care what impact it has on the enviornment, but i will say i do recycle instead of sinkin em, cause littering causes global warming
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Old 12-03-2009, 06:55 PM   #18
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All I know is that since the beginning of industrial revolution all these man made polutants rising up into the ozone and the atmosphere cant be good for the planet. Just like all the poluntants flowing into the Cheasepeake bay is not good for water life. Is it to the extent of the warming the Earth that the left is wanting you to believe, probably not. But say in 500 to a thousand years from now if the pace continues there will probably be very negative effects. Over population will probably be a relative issue as well in this country in the next 200 years. I think advances in technology will help, but if we start now trying to make changes now it cant hurt, can it?
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:03 AM   #19
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this is a ridiculous statement
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:55 AM   #20
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I really don't care if Global Warming/Climate Change is real or not. I don't have to because I generally support all the remedies anyway. I am generally against pollution so I really don't care about Global Warming.

This climategate thing is interesting ( I have also heard being called "Warmaquiddick" ). It needs to be looked into.

The problem is that it is so hard to understand what these e-mails actually mean because I am not a scientist....and most people are not. So it would be nice to have some reputable scientists take a look at it and explain what is going on to everybody.

And now it appears that there is no data... no one has been able to see the real data for years and now all the data is gone so no one can recreate the calculations anyway.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:17 AM   #21
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Alright I was watching some Keith Olberman last night and MSNBC finally mentioned it. I guess Fox ran a piece that showed the John Stewart clip where he jokingly says Global Warming has been completely debunked. Well Fox convientely left out something Jon said immediately after that statement where he basically said that the whole covering up of key data just takes away some of the creditability of the “researchers”. So Olberman’s acknowledgment of the data cover up that discredits the Global Warming fundamentalist was only to call out Fox, not to mention that this is a serious current event.

Shows like O’Reilly and Hannity, or Olberman and Maddow obviously don’t break news and primarily report opinions. I would also guess most of their viewers are already well informed, or have already made up their mind supporting the ideals or values of the shows anchor, or are simply looking for a entertaining “news” program. So for Olberman to mention this doesn’t really count as reporting it, and not just because he only used it to attack Fox, but because of the style of his show (much like O’Reilly). During the 5-8 real news reporting this issue should be mentioned, because that is where true journalism is supposed to occur on the cable news networks (minus Chris Mathews).
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:19 AM   #22
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this is a ridiculous statement
Just trying lighten it up a little
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:21 AM   #23
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All I know is that since the beginning of industrial revolution all these man made polutants rising up into the ozone and the atmosphere cant be good for the planet. Just like all the poluntants flowing into the Cheasepeake bay is not good for water life. Is it to the extent of the warming the Earth that the left is wanting you to believe, probably not. But say in 500 to a thousand years from now if the pace continues there will probably be very negative effects. Over population will probably be a relative issue as well in this country in the next 200 years. I think advances in technology will help, but if we start now trying to make changes now it cant hurt, can it?

Not just this country, the world.
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:37 PM   #24
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I hear we are going to potty train Bears, cougars < the 4 leg types > , Racoons , Rabbits , Wolves , Cows and others ... put port-a-pottys out in the woods , to cut down on animal waste .
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wouldn't one be alittle naive to think we can put all of this crap into the air, water, and underground, without any consequences? im no scientist, but it seems like common sense
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I hear you piss in the sea when you go fishing...what impact do you think that has on the environment?

What environmentally friendly restrooms are the fish using? Where do they take a piss? Oh, that's right...
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Old 12-04-2009, 01:16 PM   #27
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wouldn't one be alittle naive to think we can put all of this crap into the air, water, and underground, without any consequences? im no scientist, but it seems like common sense
it is common sense, there are impacts. But is Global Warming one of those impacts? There's no definitive proof.
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Old 12-04-2009, 01:32 PM   #28
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wouldn't one be alittle naive to think we can put all of this crap into the air, water, and underground, without any consequences? im no scientist, but it seems like common sense

I think there are negative consequences via the acts of modern man but i also think we need to find out if they outweigh the benefits of having a modern society.

Just like recycling. Does it make you feel good to do it, sure. But does the practice of consumer recycling outweigh the costs attributed to the act?


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Old 12-04-2009, 02:13 PM   #29
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So is the intent of this thread to somehow discredit Al Gore and Democrats on this issue, and more broadly global warming? Or is the intent to actually discuss the scientific facts supporting both sides of the argument. Because there are facts on both sides. I'm just curious.

For the record, I'm not interested in joining the debate I just want to boost my post count
The point of the thread is to expose something being ignored by the media except for Fox News...global warming has been proven to be a hoax supported by "adjusted" facts and cover-ups to avoid compliance with the equivalent of the Freedom of Information Act.

The final nail has been put in the coffin, but hardly anyone knows about it because the media has an agenda.

It appears the scientists and supporters of global warming came up with their conclusion and goal FIRST...then created the support to "prove" themselves right. It's completely backwards and a sad state of science when it is propelled by politics rather than discovery of the truth.
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:17 PM   #30
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this is a ridiculous statement
Gore's bank statements say otherwise. He has turned this hoax into an industry, driven by companies looking to profit, from light bulb manufacturers to utility companies to distributors of imaginary "carbon credits". He flies around on private jets, polluting more than anyone to lecture US on limiting pollution. Government at every level places rules and restrictions on citizens based on his tales and fear tactics of global warming. He's a liar and hypocrite and finally, he's been debunked...if it's ever allowed to become common knowledge as it should.

Gore once famously screeched "HE BETRAYED OUR COUNTRY, HE PLAYED ON OUR FEARS" about the President. It appears Al Gore himself is the real perpetrator of the very claims he violently screamed.
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