Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA

mlmpetert · 12-04-2009, 05:49 PM

This has been getting a lot of press down here. Not sure if other people are hearing about it. I am actually with the HOA on this one by principle, but i am really pulling for this guy. He is a complete badass as his wiki profile indicates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_T._Barfoot

If you want to have a flag pole in your yard or put up pink flamingos, thats fine just dont live in a neighborhood with a HOA. That said they should make an exception for this guy. They have been saying make a exception that allows any MOH recipients to be allowed to have a flag pole.

http://www.downtownshortpump.com/2009/12/04/short-pump-wwii-vet-garners-national-media-attention-over-flag-pole-dispute/

mlmdub130 · 12-04-2009, 05:56 PM

it's been on the news up here isn't the gov trying to help him out, hoa are such bs, they serve a decent purpose but you can't let a couple of d-bags run it, cause the do crap like this, the guy has a medal of honor doesn't he? he should be able to fly a god damn flag bigger than his house imo it's the usa and he fought for it

mlmdub130 · 12-04-2009, 05:59 PM

He advanced alone through the minefield, following ditches and depressions, until he came within a few yards of a machine gun on the German flank. After taking out the gun with a hand grenade, he entered the German trench and advanced on a second machine gun, killing two soldiers and capturing three others. When he reached a third gun, the entire crew surrendered to him. Others also surrendered and Barfoot captured a total of seventeen German soldiers. He had killed 8.[4]

just read the wiki if this guy can't fly a flag i might move to canada

Trample the Elderly · 12-04-2009, 06:35 PM

**** the HOA.

724Skinsfan · 12-04-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmdub130

He advanced alone through the minefield, following ditches and depressions, until he came within a few yards of a machine gun on the German flank. After taking out the gun with a hand grenade, he entered the German trench and advanced on a second machine gun, killing two soldiers and capturing three others. When he reached a third gun, the entire crew surrendered to him. Others also surrendered and Barfoot captured a total of seventeen German soldiers. He had killed 8.[4]

just read the wiki if this guy can't fly a flag i might move to canada

He must have just finished watching Sergeant York before heading out to battle.

mooby · 12-04-2009, 08:27 PM

Man this dude was ballin' in WW2. I've been hearing about this on DC101 the past couple of days and Elliot was planning on sending Flounder down there on Monday to help him raise the flag lol.

Personally I agree with this guy. Given his track record the man should be allowed to fly the American flag high every morning. I think they should just give a concession that a Medal of Honor winner should be allowed to fly the flag in their front yard. I understand what the HOA is trying to do but in this case you can make a special exemption but still be able to prevent them from popping up everywhere, unless of course a shitload of MOH winners decide to move into the neighborhood.

Daseal · 12-04-2009, 08:36 PM

HoA's are the biggest crock ever. Everyone has to look completely the same. I understand wanting your neighborhood to look nice, but everyone having to have the same mailbox, measuring the height of flowers, regulating the color of flowers, etc is absolutely ridiculous.

Let the man raise the flag.

dmek25 · 12-05-2009, 06:59 AM

so what if you have a bunch of flags in the neighborhood. is that a bad thing? that man is a real American hero. screw that HOA

budw38 · 12-05-2009, 08:21 AM

Hoa = fail !!!

budw38 · 12-05-2009, 08:28 AM

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firstdown · 12-05-2009, 10:42 AM

While I'm not a fan of HOA's your supose to get a copy of the bylaws before you close on your house so you know what your getting into so its really no ones fault but your own if you don't like them. With that said I hope this guy wins and get to rais his flag eveyday. I saw this on the news and could not understand why the HOA would not give an exception to this great hero who is over 90 years old.

saden1 · 12-05-2009, 11:17 AM

HOA have standards, everyone who buys a house knows that. They have a limit on how big a flagpole and that's understandable. I mean, if you don't set limits what stops a tenant putting up a 50 foot tall pole? Van Barefoot can have a flag, just not one that's very big.

Sorry, HOA wins as they should.

mlmdub130 · 12-05-2009, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saden1

HOA have standards, everyone who buys a house knows that. They have a limit on how big a flagpole and that's understandable. I mean, if you don't set limits what stops a tenant putting up a 50 foot tall pole? Van Barefoot can have a flag, just not one that's very big.

Sorry, HOA wins as they should.

it's not a very big flag it's standard size and the pole isn't that big, should he just stick a index sized flag in his front yard? hoa's are retarded and take it too far, if someone isn't keeping their property up thats one thing, but to to tell some one they can't fly an american flag is unpatriotic

tryfuhl · 12-05-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

While I'm not a fan of HOA's your supose to get a copy of the bylaws before you close on your house so you know what your getting into so its really no ones fault but your own if you don't like them. With that said I hope this guy wins and get to rais his flag eveyday. I saw this on the news and could not understand why the HOA would not give an exception to this great hero who is over 90 years old.

It's been said that this HOA does not have bylaws against it, obviously I haven't seen the papers myself.

There's actually another case of this going on somewhere too, guy has an american flag and I believe a POW flag as well.

firstdown · 12-05-2009, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

It's been said that this HOA does not have bylaws against it, obviously I haven't seen the papers myself.

There's actually another case of this going on somewhere too, guy has an american flag and I believe a POW flag as well.

The news I saw said they did have bylaws against free standing flag poles but I think they can mount one on like a porch. In this case the HOA should use some common sense and give a one time exception to the rule. The biggest problem with bylaws the minute you let one person slip on the rules the harder it becomes to inforce any of the rules. In my parents neighborhood so many people broke a little rule here and there now the bylaws are worthless. My dad was on the board and warned them this would happen but he did not really care for them to start with.

12-04-2009, 05:49 PM	#1
mlmpetert Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond Posts: 3,208	Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA This has been getting a lot of press down here. Not sure if other people are hearing about it. I am actually with the HOA on this one by principle, but i am really pulling for this guy. He is a complete badass as his wiki profile indicates. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_T._Barfoot If you want to have a flag pole in your yard or put up pink flamingos, thats fine just dont live in a neighborhood with a HOA. That said they should make an exception for this guy. They have been saying make a exception that allows any MOH recipients to be allowed to have a flag pole. http://www.downtownshortpump.com/2009/12/04/short-pump-wwii-vet-garners-national-media-attention-over-flag-pole-dispute/ __________________ https://constitutionminute.hillsdale.edu/episode1

12-04-2009, 05:56 PM	#2
mlmdub130 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Woodbridge, VA Age: 30 Posts: 3,083	Re: Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA it's been on the news up here isn't the gov trying to help him out, hoa are such bs, they serve a decent purpose but you can't let a couple of d-bags run it, cause the do crap like this, the guy has a medal of honor doesn't he? he should be able to fly a god damn flag bigger than his house imo it's the usa and he fought for it __________________ "I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason." ST21

12-04-2009, 05:59 PM	#3
mlmdub130 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Woodbridge, VA Age: 30 Posts: 3,083	Re: Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA He advanced alone through the minefield, following ditches and depressions, until he came within a few yards of a machine gun on the German flank. After taking out the gun with a hand grenade, he entered the German trench and advanced on a second machine gun, killing two soldiers and capturing three others. When he reached a third gun, the entire crew surrendered to him. Others also surrendered and Barfoot captured a total of seventeen German soldiers. He had killed 8.[4] just read the wiki if this guy can't fly a flag i might move to canada __________________ "I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason." ST21

12-04-2009, 06:35 PM	#4
Trample the Elderly Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Three Chopt Virginia Age: 35 Posts: 2,906	Re: Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA **** the HOA. __________________ A funny thing happened on the way to the temple. The moneychangers bought the priesthood.

12-04-2009, 08:27 PM	#6
mooby MVP Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 24 Posts: 11,204	Re: Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA Man this dude was ballin' in WW2. I've been hearing about this on DC101 the past couple of days and Elliot was planning on sending Flounder down there on Monday to help him raise the flag lol. Personally I agree with this guy. Given his track record the man should be allowed to fly the American flag high every morning. I think they should just give a concession that a Medal of Honor winner should be allowed to fly the flag in their front yard. I understand what the HOA is trying to do but in this case you can make a special exemption but still be able to prevent them from popping up everywhere, unless of course a shitload of MOH winners decide to move into the neighborhood.

12-04-2009, 08:36 PM	#7
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,071	Re: Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA HoA's are the biggest crock ever. Everyone has to look completely the same. I understand wanting your neighborhood to look nice, but everyone having to have the same mailbox, measuring the height of flowers, regulating the color of flowers, etc is absolutely ridiculous. Let the man raise the flag. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

12-05-2009, 06:59 AM	#8
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,448	Re: Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA so what if you have a bunch of flags in the neighborhood. is that a bad thing? that man is a real American hero. screw that HOA __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

12-05-2009, 08:21 AM	#9
budw38 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern,Va. Posts: 2,134	Re: Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA Hoa = fail !!!

12-05-2009, 08:28 AM	#10
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12-05-2009, 10:42 AM	#11
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 49 Posts: 15,277	Re: Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA While I'm not a fan of HOA's your supose to get a copy of the bylaws before you close on your house so you know what your getting into so its really no ones fault but your own if you don't like them. With that said I hope this guy wins and get to rais his flag eveyday. I saw this on the news and could not understand why the HOA would not give an exception to this great hero who is over 90 years old.

12-05-2009, 11:17 AM	#12
saden1 Eternally Legendary Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 33 Posts: 9,738	Re: Col. Van T. Barfoot vs. the HOA HOA have standards, everyone who buys a house knows that. They have a limit on how big a flagpole and that's understandable. I mean, if you don't set limits what stops a tenant putting up a 50 foot tall pole? Van Barefoot can have a flag, just not one that's very big. Sorry, HOA wins as they should. __________________ RG3, RGIII, RG三, RG३, RGγʹ, RGג, RG٣, RG๓, RG..., RG셋, RGԳ!

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