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Old 12-16-2009, 07:56 PM   #31
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Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?

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While we're at it how about more restrictions on drivers under 20? Seems that whenever I see someone on the road pulling a dick move, it's usually some kid who doesn't even look old enough to be driving.
seriously. and i think the age should vary more area to area, like in bumbfuck north dakota they can drive around 15, but here in nova or in ny where there is crazy traffic and constant road work they should make the age much higher.
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:28 PM   #32
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Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?

This is a topic that is a huge pet peeve of mine. I feel like the elderly are the most dangerous demographic on the road. First of all, judges are far less likely to strip the license of a 65 year old man than a 19 year old kid. When a 19 year old does something stupid, driving is a privilege; when an old man does something stupid, he needs his license to go to the Dr., etc etc.

I feel that past the age of 65 mandatory vision and road tests should be required. I don't think it's too much to ask that someone proves they can see and operate a vehicle safely. I know a lot of people bring up young drivers, but keep something in mind. Young drivers need to actually drive to get better. Elderly drivers will only get worse. There's no doubt that young drivers are dangerous and do stupid things, but with experience they will get better. Much like drinking, nothing really changed between 18-21 with the drinking age except people dying from alcohol related incidents 3 years later than they may have normally.

Also, they are adding much more restrictions to young drivers. Can't drive with passengers (besides guardians), can't drive after dark, etc. These are fairly common laws in many states I do believe. I think it's more for the ages of 16-18 in many states, Regardless, they have a step-up system.

And Matty, when I see a dick move, it's normally a Maryland tag -- regardless of age.
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Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?

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While we're at it how about more restrictions on drivers under 20? Seems that whenever I see someone on the road pulling a dick move, it's usually some kid who doesn't even look old enough to be driving.
I still think we have the drinking age and the driving age backwards.
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Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?

While were at it, how about euthanasia for the elderly?
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Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?

Isn't that what the Death Panels will do??
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Re: With a rise in fatal accidents caused by elderly drivers; does the nation need stricter rules on licenses?

I certainly agree with this thread. I was taught that driving was a privelage, not a right. Those that abuse those rights should be punished. Those that can't be safe, need to have their license taken away. You don't do what is best for that person, you do what is best for the population as a whole.
Someone else pointed out that it should not be the state's problem cause some elderly guy / girl killed someone due to wreckless driving. But why not put them in an elderly home, sell their car to help pay for it too? We need to do something with them when they can't drive anymore. I see a ton of old people that can't drive, but they haven't caused accidents...yet. They swerve in the lanes, turn randomly etc. This happens A LOT more than people think...just ask residents of Florida.
It's pretty obvious what we are doing is not working, so it's time to get creative and actually stop the incapable of driving. Taking away licenses / having new laws to test over 65/70 is only part of the answer. There are plenty that will still drive regardless of license. This causes a larger issue.
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While were at it, how about euthanasia for the elderly?
That's what I'm talking about!
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Back when I first opened my office I work with alot of used car lots to bind insurance over the phone for people who do not have ins. could get it and drive theri new car home. I was just amazed at some of the driving records a saw and the amount of people who had suspended lic. out buying a car. I was also amazed at how bad some of the drv. records were and the people still held a valid lic. We actually have a DMV issue in the US more then anything else. Its also politicaly tough to go after the eldery as they are a strong voting block.
excellent points.
When I lived in NM, they said that approx 50% in southeast NM didn't have insurance. Don't see how that's possible, but this seems to be a common issue. If you're caught without insurance, you are given a fine...both issues do not have stiff enough penalties.
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Its also politicaly tough to go after the eldery as they are a strong voting block.
Firstdown, you hit the nail on the head. The AARP would shit a brick if this happened.
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That's what I'm talking about!
Euthanasia can also be a punishment for bad elderly drivers. "Sorry sir but you have to many points on your record, we're gonna have to put you down."
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While we're at it how about more restrictions on drivers under 20? Seems that whenever I see someone on the road pulling a dick move, it's usually some kid who doesn't even look old enough to be driving.
Agreed, many states are getting stricter on them.

But while we're at it let's restrict female real estate agents. In NoVA I can't even count the number of times some fat fake blonde chick putting on makeup while looking in the mirror, talking on her cellphone, flipping papers, etc would swerve almost into me changing lanes and speeding all in an SUV with ads to her agency were plastered all over the windows. 66 was ripe with this
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If so thats a new law. Most people who get a DUI only have their Lic. sus. for a short time and can get a restricted lic to go to work and other thing like that. The only DMV requirment is taking the driver improvment course which is a joke and file an FR44 which use to be an SR22.
VA updated mandatory sentencing for DUIs in early 2005 or 2006. There's a lot more involved in it than a restricted license, sr22/fr44, and a drivers improvement class.
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Agreed, many states are getting stricter on them.

But while we're at it let's restrict female real estate agents. In NoVA I can't even count the number of times some fat fake blonde chick putting on makeup while looking in the mirror, talking on her cellphone, flipping papers, etc would swerve almost into me changing lanes and speeding all in an SUV with ads to her agency were plastered all over the windows. 66 was ripe with this
True that dude....i used to work in Manassas and i saw this all the time. One time i called the number on one of those cars because i saw it sideswipe a burm on 66, and i told them that i was going to call the police...
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Euthanasia can also be a punishment for bad elderly drivers. "Sorry sir but you have to many points on your record, we're gonna have to put you down."
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Taking away the licenses of older people would almost require them being cared for by others. They are a huge danger but not all of them have someone to run errands for them, plus they're stubborn and don't like to pretend that they can't drive anymore.

My grandma used to scare the hell out of me, she'd be looking out of the window and drift into the other lane all of the time.
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