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Old 12-29-2009, 11:37 AM   #16
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Then why not allow the president to keep running after serving two terms as well.
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they say they are bi partisan, but all of their beliefs are radical right wing
Can you provide some specifics?
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look at the questionnaire. see how those questions are phrased
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I think we need Term Limits. Could you imagine how awesome it would be to see over half of the Senate and the House shown the door in the next two elections.
Term limits could be dangerous. The only motivation would be their next job, lobbying. Their attitude would be, "who cares what the people think I won't be here anyway". Also, my next question is how would you determine rank?
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Liberal Mainstream Media , the mother of all conspiracy theories. You mean to tell me the milllions of people who work in the media are all aligned to a single point of view and scheme to deny any other voices?
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Old 12-29-2009, 01:00 PM   #21
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Well right now most of them are rank.
Oh you answered my question, a sniff test.
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I think we need Term Limits. Could you imagine how awesome it would be to see over half of the Senate and the House shown the door in the next two elections.
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I do think we need term limits and I say this with a family member in Congress. Some of these guys get so entrenched in the bubble that is DC they forget what is really go on beyond Capitol Hill.
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Old 12-29-2009, 01:21 PM   #23
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I'd be drinking too if I was forced to read some 1000 page thing of bs.
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Now you are assuming these guys have actually read the crap they are trying to pass :-)
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Old 12-29-2009, 03:43 PM   #24
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My point was that since we allow congress to keep running for life, why not let the president do the same. The argument against having a president run for life is because he would lose touch with the people of the country.

Do you think that congress is in touch with the country first, or the lobbyist?
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Term limits could be dangerous. The only motivation would be their next job, lobbying. Their attitude would be, "who cares what the people think I won't be here anyway". Also, my next question is how would you determine rank?
I doubt anyone would get that attitude of I won't be here when they are serving a 6 year term in the Senate. Maybe for the state representatives only having a two year term, this could be the case. Honestly, if you cannot get things done in two years, you will be voted out anyway. I think being in office for more than 12 years could leave one out of touch with there district, or state. Think back 12 years ago, a lot has changed.

As for determining rank, go by seniority first if possible, then go by birthday or something unbiased.
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I do think we need term limits and I say this with a family member in Congress. Some of these guys get so entrenched in the bubble that is DC they forget what is really go on beyond Capitol Hill.
thats a real good point i hear time and again from people who have worked or been a part of the hill.

as to the video, is it just his kinda slurred rambling speech that make people think he is drunk? is there more too it? im at work and cut off the video after 2 mins.
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Old 12-29-2009, 11:17 PM   #27
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Baucus isn't drunk here. He's a tool DINO (Democrat in Name Only) and slave to the health insurance lobby like over half of our senators. But anyway he's a horrible, horrible speaker, not comfortable at all on camera or in front of a crowd. This is basically the way he speaks although he's obviously exhausted.

The funny thing is for a very long time he was the "eloquent" senator for mont. Conrad Burns sounded mentally retarded every time he opened his mouth. In his losing bid for reelection I went to a live debate and heard people constantly asking each other what he said because he just spoke nonsense.
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:24 AM   #28
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My point was that since we allow congress to keep running for life, why not let the president do the same. The argument against having a president run for life is because he would lose touch with the people of the country.

Do you think that congress is in touch with the country first, or the lobbyist?
Gotcha...I think our politicans are almost completely out of touch...or at least don't operate in a way that most responsible Americans do. And I mean like of the 535 we've got maybe 10 I'd trust as a mechanic. No kidding. I just don't think the issue is the terms necessarily. I think that is PART of the problem. But the solution to the term issue MAY cause worse issues. Maybe not though. My whole point is that term limits sound great but they'll very likely have unitended consequences. Politics is a game and term limits would just be a rule change that all the players would adjust to. Trust me the lobby industry isn't shutting down any time soon absent someone going Dexter on them.
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:54 AM   #29
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FRPLG, what do you think of the idea of restricting national elections to public funding only? Ban all contributions and disperse matching federal funds to whichever candidate each party selects. Not only is this not going to happen, it would probably require a constitutional amendment were it to actually gain any momentum in the future. Nevertheless, that's the only solution I can come up with to fix a system with problems as endemic as ours.
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FRPLG, what do you think of the idea of restricting national elections to public funding only? Ban all contributions and disperse matching federal funds to whichever candidate each party selects. Not only is this not going to happen, it would probably require a constitutional amendment were it to actually gain any momentum in the future. Nevertheless, that's the only solution I can come up with to fix a system with problems as endemic as ours.
I think it another magic unicorn unless it is exactly how you describe. They'll figure ways around it unless it is made law that they get no money except from the one very administered source. But then how do you stop service contributions? Or the Parties doing all the campaigning? Sounds like alogistical nightmare but at this point it can't be wrose I guess. If you can't tell I am very "the system is broken" type. I have less of a problem with individual politicians than I do with the system in general. There's a reason no one else in the world has our form of government. I have very little confidence that the two party system can "succeed" in the way that most Americans envision their gov't working.
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