Global Warming? My A$$ Its Cold Outside

KLHJ2 · 01-05-2010, 10:40 PM

Firstdown, you know that I am in between on several thing regarding politics and such. I takes sides on the views that I believe are truth rather than taking any one particular side.

I believe that there are some legitimate concerns with global warming. First you have to get past the bullshit name that they gave it "Global Warming". A more appropriate name would have been "Global De-Insulation". First off, the word "cold" is a relative term. There are only varying degrees of heat. The word "cold " comes into play when the degree of heat is lesser than what we find comfortable.

To truly understand Global warming you have to understand what the ozone layer truly is. In simple terms it is the layer of insulation in the atmosphere. Think of it as the insulation in your attic. Without proper insulation in your attic, your house cannot retain the cool air upstairs, therefore it gets too hot. In the winter time it cannot retain the heat, therefore your house gets too cold. The extreme differences between hot and cold during the different seasons are in relation to one another. Just because the accepted term is global "Warming" do not take it being "Cold" as a direct opposite of that at face value.

I hope that I just made sense.

Redskins8588 · 01-05-2010, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Tell your dad the more red meat he eats the less cows there will be.

Thats what I would think too...

hooskins · 01-05-2010, 10:44 PM

Look I dont really think that means we should start being hippies and live in trees lol. Its just fact and I dont know how anyone can legitimately dispute the core argument, without getting away from facts.

firstdown · 01-05-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

Look I dont really think that means we should start being hippies and live in trees lol. Its just fact and I dont know how anyone can legitimately dispute the core argument, without getting away from facts.

The problem is I'm still not sold on what is fact and what is not.
Controversial new climate change data: Is Earth's capacity to absorb CO<sub>2</sub> much greater than expected?

How did they come up with those charts you point to as fact? If they said Global Warming was just a trend and the earth warms and cools over time what happens to their funding (millions and millions of dollars). Remember follow the money. How much money has Mr Gore made of global warming? If it was such a crises why did most of them attendending the global thing last month take a private jet "remember they are so concerned". I'm just not sold yet.

hooskins · 01-05-2010, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

The problem is I'm still not sold on what is fact and what is not.
Controversial new climate change data: Is Earth's capacity to absorb CO<sub>2</sub> much greater than expected?

How did they come up with those charts you point to as fact? If they said Global Warming was just a trend and the earth warms and cools over time what happens to their funding (millions and millions of dollars). Remember follow the money. How much money has Mr Gore made of global warming? If it was such a crises why did most of them attendending the global thing last month take a private jet "remember they are so concerned". I'm just not sold yet.

Again you start generalizing, them them them. Seriously who is them? You make it seem like its an us vs them game. This is why I seriously hate the way people have become so freaking polarized we cant just step back and realize we are all humans and AMERICANS. Not sworn enemies. Geez. For the record, I dont give a crap about Gore and I know he is a sellout. Just like any other public figure. (Wow blows your mind huh? Of "them", aka me, calling out Gore? Oh no, it makes no sense!!!!).

How do they make those charts? Well if you take some time and read it says thermostats for the readings of the last 140 years. The measurements beyond that are using other techniques, tree rings, etc. That is why the range is greater in those measurements. Despite all that, there is still a trend which goes back several hundred years showing a consistent heating of our planet. Sure there are peaks and valleys(thoses are the small heatings and coolings you are taking about), but from the overall large picture there is a clear increase which is statistically significant.

How can you deny this lol?

tryfuhl · 01-05-2010, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

Yeah its butt cold.

And sorry, but I have to throw this in...
Meteorologists: Global Warming and Cold Weather Go Hand-In-Ha nd | News | English

exactly.. which is why you never see me argue things like this with republicans

saden1 · 01-06-2010, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Well you can always pull with your right hand to turn right and stop using words I have to look up in the dictionary.

Try doing a figure eight on your bike by pulling on the bars.

dmek25 · 01-06-2010, 05:37 AM

hoo, stop trying to cloud the facts with figures

Mattyk · 01-06-2010, 08:32 AM

Yup, pretty cold outside here, pretty much how a NY January always is. Glad we totally debunked global warming.

firstdown · 01-06-2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Try doing a figure eight on your bike by pulling on the bars.

Should I try that with my 3 yr old in the back seat or try it on my own first? Saden I hope you had a great christmas and a happy New year.

saden1 · 01-06-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Should I try that with my 3 yr old in the back seat or try it on my own first? Saden I hope you had a great christmas and a happy New year.

LOL...I wouldn't try it with your kid on the bike. I hear the best place to try it is at busy intersection but that doesn't sound safe to me.

I did enjoy the holidays, I spent it in the frigid cold of the D.C. area with my fiancé and her family. They had a feast in my honor and I met most of her immediate family members.

I hope you had a good christmas and new year too.

Trample the Elderly · 01-06-2010, 11:28 AM

First it was global cooling. Then they said is was global cooling. Now it is climate change. Why don't you dumb asses wake up and realize that the West is just selling indulgences to third world nations so they can keep on polluting, and liberal schmucks can feel good about themselves. I'll give you props on selling a good racket but don't think I'm stupid enough to believe in it.

firstdown · 01-06-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

LOL...I wouldn't try it with your kid on the bike. I hear the best place to try it is at busy intersection but that doesn't sound safe to me.

I did enjoy the holidays, I spent it in the frigid cold of the D.C. area with my fiancé and her family. They had a feast in my honor and I met most of her immediate family members.

I hope you had a good christmas and new year too.

My Christmas was great and having a 3 yr old made it feel more like christmas playing santa and all that good stuff. My older daughter 24 spent the night and helped us play santa and I think she had as much fun as we did. I'm lucky all my family lives in the area so christmas eve we only had a 3 mile drive to my parents house and christmas day we drove a mile to my wifes parents home. We started a new tradition and had a family party christmas night at our house which was alot of fun. Spent New Years at home and actually made it till 12 which was something we had not done in a few years. So when is the big day?

Monkeydad · 01-06-2010, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

Yeah its butt cold.

And sorry, but I have to throw this in...
Meteorologists: Global Warming and Cold Weather Go Hand-In-Hand | News | English

Mattyk · 01-06-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

First it was global cooling. Then they said is was global cooling. Now it is climate change. Why don't you dumb asses wake up and realize that the West is just selling indulgences to third world nations so they can keep on polluting, and liberal schmucks can feel good about themselves. I'll give you props on selling a good racket but don't think I'm stupid enough to believe in it.

So do you think there is no basis at all for global warming/cooling/ozone breaking down, whatever you want to call it?

01-05-2010, 10:40 PM	#16
KLHJ2 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 34 Posts: 5,823	Re: Global Warming? My A$$ Its Cold Outside Firstdown, you know that I am in between on several thing regarding politics and such. I takes sides on the views that I believe are truth rather than taking any one particular side. I believe that there are some legitimate concerns with global warming. First you have to get past the bullshit name that they gave it "Global Warming". A more appropriate name would have been "Global De-Insulation". First off, the word "cold" is a relative term. There are only varying degrees of heat. The word "cold " comes into play when the degree of heat is lesser than what we find comfortable. To truly understand Global warming you have to understand what the ozone layer truly is. In simple terms it is the layer of insulation in the atmosphere. Think of it as the insulation in your attic. Without proper insulation in your attic, your house cannot retain the cool air upstairs, therefore it gets too hot. In the winter time it cannot retain the heat, therefore your house gets too cold. The extreme differences between hot and cold during the different seasons are in relation to one another. Just because the accepted term is global "Warming" do not take it being "Cold" as a direct opposite of that at face value. I hope that I just made sense. __________________ Read "The Book", life will gain meaning. Last edited by KLHJ2; 01-05-2010 at 11:14 PM.

01-05-2010, 10:44 PM	#18
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 25 Posts: 8,557	Re: Global Warming? My A$$ Its Cold Outside Look I dont really think that means we should start being hippies and live in trees lol. Its just fact and I dont know how anyone can legitimately dispute the core argument, without getting away from facts. __________________ Vacancy

01-06-2010, 05:37 AM	#23
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,439	Re: Global Warming? My A$$ Its Cold Outside hoo, stop trying to cloud the facts with figures __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

01-06-2010, 08:32 AM	#24
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,689	Re: Global Warming? My A$$ Its Cold Outside Yup, pretty cold outside here, pretty much how a NY January always is. Glad we totally debunked global warming. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-06-2010, 11:28 AM	#27
Trample the Elderly Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Three Chopt Virginia Age: 35 Posts: 2,906	Re: Global Warming? My A$$ Its Cold Outside First it was global cooling. Then they said is was global cooling. Now it is climate change. Why don't you dumb asses wake up and realize that the West is just selling indulgences to third world nations so they can keep on polluting, and liberal schmucks can feel good about themselves. I'll give you props on selling a good racket but don't think I'm stupid enough to believe in it. __________________ A funny thing happened on the way to the temple. The moneychangers bought the priesthood.

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