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Old 01-22-2010, 10:58 AM   #46
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Min. wage as it is right now is certainly not a livable wage.
It's not intended to be. The far majority of people making minimum wage are not working as a head of household or to support a family, they're usually kids. Increasing it so these kids make more money is only going to result in the company hiring fewer of them, or paying the rest of their employees less since the Government is costing them more for lower-priority, nonessential workers.
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Old 01-22-2010, 10:59 AM   #47
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Well i've always believed that Walmart is anti-union only because they know that the Union would force them to make changes they dont want, mainly higher pay, safer conditions, etc...

I'm Pro Union. I won't lie. I feel like the average companies do not care about workers rights, i feel like we need someone to represent us. That being said, i agree that the stores would be gone in a few years if everyone unionized.

I'll be honest with you, I don't feel that a union is always a bad thing. It can be in certain situations, but for retail workers, it would be good.

Ask yourself; does anyone really deserve to be paid that low of a wage?? I understand that its a dead end job, that needs no skills, etc...but don't they realize that they could change their image as a whole, and attract better workers if they made the wages better??

they don't care about better employees they want cheaper employees. Little cost in training and uniforms for your average Wal Mart employee.

They don't need to change their image they are rolling in the dough!
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It's not intended to be. The far majority of people making minimum wage are not working as a head of household or to support a family, they're usually kids. Increasing it so these kids make more money is only going to result in the company hiring fewer of them, or paying the rest of their employees less since the Government is costing them more for lower-priority, nonessential workers.
The latest data I can find from 2007 shows it's more like 50/50

Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2007
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factor in too a lot of people that are working as supplimental income to support a husband/wife or whatever.

I just hate it that the response is to treat retail workers and people who work with the public as less than human. Ie) retail workers, resteraunt workers. I wish there was a way for us all to have wages where we can actually afford to live...

And a company that makes a 200Billion profit each year can afford to pay their workers more than 7.00 an hour...thats some bullshit right there!
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It's not intended to be. The far majority of people making minimum wage are not working as a head of household or to support a family, they're usually kids. Increasing it so these kids make more money is only going to result in the company hiring fewer of them, or paying the rest of their employees less since the Government is costing them more for lower-priority, nonessential workers.
Walk into a lot of min wage places.. gas stations, retail, food service

a lot of adults
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Old 01-23-2010, 02:24 PM   #51
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It's not intended to be. The far majority of people making minimum wage are not working as a head of household or to support a family, they're usually kids. Increasing it so these kids make more money is only going to result in the company hiring fewer of them, or paying the rest of their employees less since the Government is costing them more for lower-priority, nonessential workers.
I used to work a minimum wage job a few years back and trust me. They had people from 18 - at least 50 or 60 working there. I'm making a little more than minimum wage now and still the same thing. A couple years ago at my current job, this guy was 70 at working till he got a new job. If I had to guess, (just like the link Matty provided) I would think it's at least a 50/50 split.

Even at burger joints I haven't been seeing as many kids/college students working. I'm more likely to see them waiting tables than anywhere else..
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factor in too a lot of people that are working as supplimental income to support a husband/wife or whatever.

I just hate it that the response is to treat retail workers and people who work with the public as less than human. Ie) retail workers, resteraunt workers. I wish there was a way for us all to have wages where we can actually afford to live...

And a company that makes a 200Billion profit each year can afford to pay their workers more than 7.00 an hour...thats some bullshit right there!
Did some work with the homeless and we had to sit through a lecture as part of it. And at least in the D.C. area the minimum wage would have to start at at least $11 per hour for people to be able to live hand to mouth. Kinda sad.
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Its called get an education and work hard. If someone has been in the work force for any amount of time and is making min wage then they are probably lazy. This does not apply to some areas where jobs are hard to come by or in the current state. I dated a girl who work in a resturaunt waiting tables and on a bad night made around $100 and on a good night could make $250 and that was back in the early 90's.
Male and female strippers make good money too so I hear. There's always the pole...
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Did some work with the homeless and we had to sit through a lecture as part of it. And at least in the D.C. area the minimum wage would have to start at at least $11 per hour for people to be able to live hand to mouth. Kinda sad.
at 21 I was making 13/hr in Manassas, VA (well living in Nokesville) and was only able to survive because I was only paying 400/mo in rent because it was a very tiny family house and the rent was just to cover the property taxes

that same sub-900sq ft house is now renting for 1300/mo.. no clue how, but it is... there's a lot of land but I don't think that the people are using it

I probably could've budgeted a bit better but oh well... it's definitely tough

I've been looking at prices of moving closer to DC (somewhere somewhat near metro access) and the prices are crazy.. I'd have to get a pretty decent job again and rent a room out in a house..
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I was born in Va and now reside in Tx,if i lived in Va making what i make in tx I would probably be living in a slum area.The house I live in in Tx probably sell for 95,000.In va probably would sell for 300,000 or more.My mom is about to retire in 2 weeks,Feb 5th will make 30 yrs working as a cashier at walmart,do they care,fck no,they cant wait to kick her ass to the curb.Shes got to be one of the highest paid cashiers in the country working for walmart.How many other cashiers would have worked at walmart for 30 yrs? They cant wait to replace her with someone making minimum wage.I frickin hate walmart,I wish kmart was still around but walmart ran them pretty much out of Tx,theres none in houston
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first, you're a trip. you say the only people that can secede are either the educated, or the hard worker. while i do not have a degree, i challenge anyone with my work effort. i know a lot of good, hard working people that are working crap jobs, of a full and a part time job. the volume of employment is just not there. i worked 2 jobs for 2 years. you want to talk about sucking? most of the adults working minimum/ low paying jobs are stuck. any suggestions on a job? they are simply not out there
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htownskinsfan, tell your mom congrats, and enjoy her retirement. to work for that many years at any job is commendable. let alone a Wal-Mart
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Firstdown's post about getting an education is accurate to those people who are high school dropouts, but anymore today, education, military experience, and anything else doesnt mean jack shit to help you in the job hunt.

That is experience talking. I have a college degree and a military background, and nobody cared jack shit about that. That's probably a reflection of the times as a whole, but i can tell you for the longest time, i had jobs that only payed 9 and 10 dollars an hour. I got lucky because a staffing company had a job opening that paid 14.00 an hour, and i got the job. Long story short, the company ended up hiring me full time. But if not for that, i would still be out there with meaningless jobs, despite a government paid education.

Thats what makes it a joke. This "obama money for school" wont do shit for you. You get out of college and can only be glad for the experience. But until things turn around, college does not guarantee you a good job. It's like one of my good friends told me, who was a major in education:

He told me that companies anymore can barely afford to get by, and as such, are going to pay accordingly. The company doesnt want to give you a high wage, they want to keep you middle of the road (12-15.00 per hour). And i agree with him. Keep in mind i live in Frederick County, VA though, and one of my best friends got a teaching job last year, and he only made $28,000 a year. And thats at a high school level.
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Firstdown's post about getting an education is accurate to those people who are high school dropouts, but anymore today, education, military experience, and anything else doesnt mean jack shit to help you in the job hunt.

That is experience talking. I have a college degree and a military background, and nobody cared jack shit about that. That's probably a reflection of the times as a whole, but i can tell you for the longest time, i had jobs that only payed 9 and 10 dollars an hour. I got lucky because a staffing company had a job opening that paid 14.00 an hour, and i got the job. Long story short, the company ended up hiring me full time. But if not for that, i would still be out there with meaningless jobs, despite a government paid education.

Thats what makes it a joke. This "obama money for school" wont do shit for you. You get out of college and can only be glad for the experience. But until things turn around, college does not guarantee you a good job. It's like one of my good friends told me, who was a major in education:

He told me that companies anymore can barely afford to get by, and as such, are going to pay accordingly. The company doesnt want to give you a high wage, they want to keep you middle of the road (12-15.00 per hour). And i agree with him. Keep in mind i live in Frederick County, VA though, and one of my best friends got a teaching job last year, and he only made $28,000 a year. And thats at a high school level.
Teachers are known for not getting paid squat, especially if you're fresh out of college, expect to be eating Ramen Noodles in your studio apartment for awhile.

But being that I graduate in May holding nothing but a B.A. in psychology, I see now that I'm pretty much fucked. I'm pretty much looking to intern at a few places for free for some months/years, cross my fingers and pray for an offer for a full-time position.
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What's your degree in SS84? Just curious.
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