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Old 05-24-2010, 02:55 PM   #61
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Yeah no. Not really even close. If you didn't watch past season one you cannot possibly have a valid opinion. I don't get all the hate coming from people who weren't actual fans. They have no idea what they're talking about.
I think the "hate" that I have for the show is that, when it first came out, it was a really appealing interesting show. something that, like an epic, would have a beginning, plot, then end. kinda like a movie broken into parts and shown on tv.

not like almost every new show like friends where each episode starts from scratch and it could go on forever.

but after making it a point and priority to watch every episode of season one, then trying to commit myself for season 2, i lost interest when i came to the opinion the lost producers were just going to string this thing out as long as they profitably could, making long winded side roads dealing with peripheal characters that had nothing to do with season 1, the main characters or the fundamental plot line.

every good story needs a conflict then resolution. here, the conflict was always changing. the parameters the viewer was introduced to was constantly changed by the writers/producers.

at a point during season 2, i felt my viewership was being abused. that the quality of the show was going to take a back seat to how many seasons and episodes the network could cram outta this thing.

the show initially presented itself as a mystery, home viewer play along and see if you can pick up the clues and figure this out. now, the people who stuck thru the whole 6 seasons say you cant look at every clue, dont take everything so serious and staightforward, be willing to overlook inconsistencies, its about the journey not the destination.

thats not how the show was advertised to me. i mean, didnt they show 1 hour recap shows before a new episode so we could all get caught up on their clues?

wasnt the buzz and focus after season 1 almost entirely about figuring out lost? are they in purgatory? are they sleeping? coma? that historical footnote about an island that is a magnetic enigma which was discovered by a guy with a name which is referenced to in lost?

now, its not figuring out what the island is but the journey to the question?

lame.

hollywood watered down and tugged at all directions something which was once novel and unique.

our opinion that they dragged it out the a$$ is valid. it may be limited but its valid.
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You aren't wrong at all. But then again why did people watch it and then get mad about it, or are on message boards discussing it, if they weren't fans in the first place? I don't care whether people liked it or not. It doesn't change my opinion but it sorta irks me that people who didn't watch the show much and didn't much care about it watched the finale and then pan it. Or didn't watch it and pan the mere ideas in it. It gives the false impression that it was generally disliked when in fact every single person who actually followed the show, that I have talked to our read postings from, loved it.
My project manager who followed the series for 6 season is sitting next to me. All I heard all morning is him bitching about how screwed up the last episode was.
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The island wasn't purgatory, and it seems to me the bitter ones are the ones who want to give a hard time to those who stuck through the series to the end and appreciated the entire series, including the finale.
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I will agree though that there were some parts throughout the series that maybe weren't necessary, but in the end I think it made sense. And again, like I said earlier, some questions were left unanswered, which I actually kind of preferred.

I think a lot of people who are upset are bothered that it wasn't as science-fictiony as they would have liked. I think some people are bothered that ultimately it was, well, a love story.
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If anyone here has read the Dark Tower series by Stephen King, that series under lying tone was it is about the detestation not the ending, which seems to be the same song Lost is singing and I can get that.
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I think the "hate" that I have for the show is that, when it first came out, it was a really appealing interesting show. something that, like an epic, would have a beginning, plot, then end. kinda like a movie broken into parts and shown on tv.

not like almost every new show like friends where each episode starts from scratch and it could go on forever.

but after making it a point and priority to watch every episode of season one, then trying to commit myself for season 2, i lost interest when i came to the opinion the lost producers were just going to string this thing out as long as they profitably could, making long winded side roads dealing with peripheal characters that had nothing to do with season 1, the main characters or the fundamental plot line.

every good story needs a conflict then resolution. here, the conflict was always changing. the parameters the viewer was introduced to was constantly changed by the writers/producers.

at a point during season 2, i felt my viewership was being abused. that the quality of the show was going to take a back seat to how many seasons and episodes the network could cram outta this thing.

the show initially presented itself as a mystery, home viewer play along and see if you can pick up the clues and figure this out. now, the people who stuck thru the whole 6 seasons say you cant look at every clue, dont take everything so serious and staightforward, be willing to overlook inconsistencies, its about the journey not the destination.

thats not how the show was advertised to me. i mean, didnt they show 1 hour recap shows before a new episode so we could all get caught up on their clues?

wasnt the buzz and focus after season 1 almost entirely about figuring out lost? are they in purgatory? are they sleeping? coma? that historical footnote about an island that is a magnetic enigma which was discovered by a guy with a name which is referenced to in lost?

now, its not figuring out what the island is but the journey to the question?

lame.

hollywood watered down and tugged at all directions something which was once novel and unique.

our opinion that they dragged it out the a$$ is valid. it may be limited but its valid.
This is well stated, and you summed up some of my biggest complaints about the show, and especially this final season prior to last night. While I did like the finale and I am willing to accept the idea that the journey is key I completely understand why so many people feel cheated by this season and the ending.

I don't know, I'm still trying to figure out how I really feel about the ending, but I guess in a way that's better than completely forgetting about the show now that it's over.
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If anyone here has read the Dark Tower series by Stephen King, that series under lying tone was it is about the detestation not the ending, which seems to be the same song Lost is singing and I can get that.
Yeah I've brought this up in the past. I think when talking about Charlotte (Charlotte Lewis).

But I think you're thinking of the wrong Dark Tower. The Dark Tower I believe you want to bring up is CS Lewis' The Dark Tower
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Yeah I've brought this up in the past. I think when talking about Charlotte (Charlotte Lewis).

But I think you're thinking of the wrong Dark Tower. The Dark Tower I believe you want to bring up is CS Lewis' The Dark Tower

No I am talking SK's Dark Tower, if you read the over 5k pages and get to the end there is interesting ending, that SK acknowledges in the epilogue about how so many folks read to get to the end instead of enjoying the journey, basically they are so focused on the Tootsie Pops center that they don't take the time to enjoy outer shell.

I did quickly read the pilot to CL's Dark Tower and that is earlier similar to the plot of Lost where SK's Dark Tower more reflects the methodology of the story telling.
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I will agree though that there were some parts throughout the series that maybe weren't necessary, but in the end I think it made sense. And again, like I said earlier, some questions were left unanswered, which I actually kind of preferred.

I think a lot of people who are upset are bothered that it wasn't as science-fictiony as they would have liked. I think some people are bothered that ultimately it was, well, a love story.
Well put.

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Yeah I've brought this up in the past. I think when talking about Charlotte (Charlotte Lewis).

But I think you're thinking of the wrong Dark Tower. The Dark Tower I believe you want to bring up is CS Lewis' The Dark Tower

This interesting that I just found on Wiki about the SK's Dark Tower coming to the big screen.

Film adaptation

IGN Movies has reported that a film adaptation was in the works; whether it was for a movie or a television series still is unknown. J. J. Abrams, co-creator of the television show Lost, was supposedly attached to produce and direct.[11] Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof, who co-created the show Lost with J. J. Abrams, optioned the Dark Tower series from King for a reported nineteen dollars, a number that mysteriously recurs throughout the Dark Tower series of novels.[12] According to issue #923 of Entertainment Weekly, King "is an ardent supporter of the desert-island show and trusts Abrams to translate his vision" into a film franchise with Lindelof being "the leading candidate to write the screenplay for the first installment."[13] In a July 2009 interview with C21 Media, Lindelof revealed that he and Cuse had indeed optioned The Dark Tower's rights, but said he was wary about committing to such an ambitious project: "The idea of taking on something that massive again after having done six seasons of Lost is intimidating and slightly frightening, to say the least." [14]
King also reported that he had turned down long-time collaborator Frank Darabont, creator of such films as The Green Mile and The Shawshank Redemption, after he had asked to do the film.

Roland as depicted in the opening credits of another Stephen King movie, The Mist.


Multiple mock trailers have appeared on YouTube. Also, the official Grand Prize winner of Simon & Schuster's (King's Publisher) American Gunslinger contest,[15] "Roland Meets Brown",[16] by Robert David Cochrane,[17] can be found there.
In King's 2007 film The Mist, the main character, David Drayton, can be seen painting a movie poster with Roland in the center, standing in front of a trans-dimensional Ghostwood door, with a rose and the dark tower to each side.
In April 2009, both Abrams and Lindelof revealed that they would most likely begin adapting the series when Lost concludes in 2010.[18][19]
In May 2009, rumours emerged that Christian Bale was the top contender to play Roland.[20]
In November 2009, Abrams stated that he would not be adapting the series. During an interview with MTV, Abrams made the following comments: "The Dark Tower thing is tricky. The truth is that Damon and I are not looking at that right now." Furthermore, in an interview with USA Today, Damon Lindelof stated that "After working six years on 'Lost,' the last thing I want to do is spend the next seven years adapting one of my favorite books of all time. I'm such a massive Stephen King fan that I'm terrified of screwing it up. I'd do anything to see those movies written by someone else. My guess is they will get made because they're so incredible. But not by me."[21]
In April 2010, it was announced that the books will be adapted into a trilogy that will be written by Akiva Goldsman and directed and produced by Ron Howard
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No I am talking SK's Dark Tower, if you read the over 5k pages and get to the end there is interesting ending, that SK acknowledges in the epilogue about how so many folks read to get to the end instead of enjoying the journey, basically they are so focused on the Tootsie Pops center that they don't take the time to enjoy outer shell.

I did quickly read the pilot to CL's Dark Tower and that is earlier similar to the plot of Lost where SK's Dark Tower more reflects the methodology of the story telling.
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This was entertaining last night

Hulu - Jimmy Kimmel Live: Aloha to LOST - Watch the full episode now.
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Well put.

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I thought the ending was great. Answered a lot of questions, and left many unanswered. Just as I expected. The only thing I didn't like was that they killed "Locke" off with over an hour left in the show. That seemed too soon for me.
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LOL

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You liked that? You'll love this

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