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Old 02-24-2010, 04:19 PM   #16
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:20 PM   #17
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Trust me, Cheney and crew ruined way more military lives and families than Murtha could ever have the chance of doing.
I disagree. He had their backs and respect, unlike Murtha.
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:58 AM   #19
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Of course he did, he was making a boatload of $$ off of them.
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I disagree. He had their backs and respect, unlike Murtha.
I'm not sure how sending people to die in a war for oil is having "their backs."
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i hate his policies, and what he stands for, but never wish ill will on anyone. hopefully a speedy recovery
He was president for eight years without ever taking the oath. I hope his health will serve him well in his recovery.
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Please explain how he made money off the war.
You really need to have that spelled out??
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:17 PM   #23
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Wow what a shocking turn this thread has taken <end sarcasm>
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:24 PM   #24
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That quote from the liberal hand book is about a dumb as dumb gets.
Any US involvement in the Middle East, from Israel to Iraq has a lot to do with oil. I don't think this is a right or left thing, is just reality.
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Please explain how he made money off the war.
How about the fact that we had a detailed plan for seizing Iraqi oil assets before the war and began executing that plan immediately, yet we never had a coherent plan for creating a new Iraqi government? How about the fact that Iraq's oil assets are still being overseen by Halliburton, Cheney's company? How about the fact that Cheney and Bush are both investors in military companies like Bechtel, so with every shell fired, they potentially get a stock dividend? And all of this is just the beginning.

Or let me put it this way: McDonald's is the world's largest purchaser of potatoes. If McDonald's invaded Idaho, and said that the invasion was about freedom, not potatoes, would you believe them?
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Old 02-25-2010, 02:54 PM   #26
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FactCheck.org: Kerry Ad Falsely Accuses Cheney on Halliburton

Of course there are ties from both parties to multiple corporations...none of this has anything to do with Cheney getting a heart attack
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Sorry but I'm sure neither Bush nor Cheney owned stock in Betchtel but that good to throw out there. Also Haliburton does not have control over Iraq's oil and it seems Iraq is doing just fine selling their oil Iraq signs new overseas oil deal. You may want to check where you get your info from.
Bush and Cheney were both listed as stockholders of Bechtel at the start of the war. In fact, they were listed as major stakeholders on the front page of Bechtel's Web site (which has since conveniently been changed).

You are also neglecting the fact that Halliburton has been doing the servicing of Iraq's oil infrastructure. I didn't say owning oil, I said making money from it.

Riddle me this: both Saddam's sabotage and the invasion destroyed much of Iraq's oil infrastructure at the start of the war. Who was it who helped them to rebuild the infrastructure? Halliburton.

Since you have questioned my facts, then let me add this: how about the well-documented reality that the Halliburton subsidiary of Kellogg, Brown, and Root has been found not just charging, but overcharging, the US military for the supplies which it has provided?

I can understand how supporters of the Iraq war, which is the greatest foreign relations blunder in American history, would want to be in denial of its reality. But facts are facts.
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Why should people on the left want Cheney to die. No one is afraid of him. Wish him well i am glad he witnessed the election of Barack Obama. I just wish Strom and Jesse Helms were around to see it.
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How about the fact that we had a detailed plan for seizing Iraqi oil assets before the war and began executing that plan immediately, yet we never had a coherent plan for creating a new Iraqi government?
I've tried to tone down and stay out of the politics for a while but can't let this one go.

We had a detailed plan to seize Iraqi oil fields so Saddam wouldn't be able to destroy Iraq's primary asset to be used in rebuilding the country. The Bush Admin made it a point not to take any oil $$$ from Iraq. Instead we pumped Billions into Iraq to rebuild it.

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How about the fact that Iraq's oil assets are still being overseen by Halliburton, Cheney's company? How about the fact that Cheney and Bush are both investors in military companies like Bechtel, so with every shell fired, they potentially get a stock dividend? And all of this is just the beginning.
Dude, you need to stay off the left-wing blogs. Your conspiracy theories are out there and factually incorrect. Iraq's oil assests are being handled by the Iraqi government. The Asia Times is certainly no friend of Cheney and Co.

Asia Times Online :: Middle East News, Iraq, Iran current affairs

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Win-win for Russia and China
Cheney's and Rumsfeld's script was never supposed to develop like this. Instead of US Big Oil getting the lion's share, strategic competitors Russia and China turned out to be big winners. Dick Cheney's "consolation prize" was an Exxon-Mobil-Shell alliance getting the phase 1 of West Qurna in early November. Exxon-Mobil had been the favorite to also win Rumaila (17.8 billion barrels of reserves). But a BP-CNPC (China National Petroleum Corporation) alliance got it in the end because unlike Exxon-Mobil they agreed to cut their fee per barrel down to the Oil Ministry-enforced $2.

Please show one shred of FACTUAL evidence that Cheney or Bush was invested in ANY military-type or oil producing company while in Executive Office.

And certainly the righteous Obama Admin would never steer a contract to one of their donors (cronies)

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Old 02-25-2010, 04:12 PM   #30
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I disagree. He had their backs and respect, unlike Murtha.
Thousands of them are laying on their backs in the ground if that's what you mean.
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