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Old 03-03-2010, 07:07 PM   #46
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I don't know why everything has to devolve into a blamefest, one camp blaming the parents, one camp blaming the breed, others blaming both. Why can't something just be a tragedy? Rottweilers are in fact known as a relatively docile breed, albeit one with tremendous strength. This one blew its top for reasons we aren't privy too - that doesn't mean it's not safe to have dogs or this breed specifically around kids, and it doesn't even necessarily mean the animal wasn't raised properly (although perhaps it wasn't, who knows). Statistically speaking, the risk of a dog attacking a child is so minuscule that owning one can't be construed as dangerous...the point being that it's not fair to attack these parents as at fault, at least without substantially more information.
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:01 PM   #47
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Tough times for the guys at Original Productions, first the death on Deadliest Catch and now this. They're all a-holes anyway, but still...
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Tough times for the guys at Original Productions, first the death on Deadliest Catch and now this. They're all a-holes anyway, but still...
SS drops a bomb. A-holes? That's the piligian crew doing those shows right?
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SS drops a bomb. A-holes? That's the piligian crew doing those shows right?
I won't name names but I was in a fantasy football league with a bunch of these guys one year and it was just an awful experience. Total dickwads took all the fun out of it. Then I was going to do some business with them, and they again were completely unprofessional, total dicks. I mean you deal with all sorts of people and you put up with it. But not them, I will never do business with them. Ever. I don't want to get into specifics but the way they treated people was truly disgusting
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Not to change the subject, but in talking about A-holes, how could one not name S&S Aqua logging, or Jimmy and his son, James.

He curses and yells at everyone, even his boat man, and especially his son James. In one episode his dad yelled at him, called him a mother f'er, told him he was quitting and selling the business, and then 2 seconds later opened his house door to tell James to come in and get something to eat lol, and that he loved him.

And the funny thing is, his son looks like he'd be more comfortable at a video game convention than out working with his dad, but i know all too well the pressures of trying to succeed in a family business..
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Its called TV and without that stuff who would even watch? I'm sure they exchange words from time to time but not like they do when the TV is running. That is also a job that one mistake can kill you and others around you. Its not like me making a spelling error on a letter that I mailed to a customer.
Do you even watch the show? Are you sure you know who i am talking about? The man curses, swears, and goes off every minute that the TV is on.

Exchange words from time to time? The more i re-read your post i get the feeling that you dont know who i am talking about.
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I'll argee with this. Whne I was talking about Rots and Pits I was speaking from the stand point that I would not have one in my home. I don't have problem with people who choose to but its a risk they take. I'm sure I take risk all the time that others would not take.
I agree , I do not have a problem with Pits and Rots , I just won't live with something that is capable of killing me . Welcome to Cesar Millan's Official Web Site | Cesar Millan I understand he is one of the most respected dog trainers around .
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I agree , I do not have a problem with Pits and Rots , I just won't live with something that is capable of killing me . Welcome to Cesar Millan's Official Web Site | Cesar Millan I understand he is one of the most respected dog trainers around .
You're not married, I take it.
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Sad thread turned bizarre.

How can there be any debate whether kids should be left alone w/ animals that can kill them? Seriously? Don't tell me well-trained dogs don't attack. Pull that tail harder or slap its nose and see what happens. The kid doesn't know better because it's a kid...the dog doesn't know better because it's 90% instinct. Bad combo!!!
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YouTube - Ax Men: Jim Feels The Pressure

Just so there is no confusion lol as to who i'm talking about. Watch the clip. This is Jimmy & James from S&S Logging....the language is NSFW.
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YouTube - Ax Men: Jim Feels The Pressure

Just so there is no confusion lol as to who i'm talking about. Watch the clip. This is Jimmy & James from S&S Logging....the language is NSFW.

I have worked in plenty of kitchens and chefs are pretty much like this all the time in the heat of the moment but they be the first to buy you a drink at the end of the night too. In high stress jobs people sometimes just like to swear and yell you got be able to realize they are pissed at the moment not you. I would say this is probably not a good measuring stick of who this guy really is.
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You're not married, I take it.
LOL . No , I'am not . I will have to take my chances one day , of course , these days , I would be more worried about her taking half my $ than my life
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Ironically, the topic of Cesar Millan's latest episode spoke exclusively about dangerous dog myths. He highlighted three breeds - Pit Bulls, Rottweilers, and German Shepherds. Check it out. The show airs on National Geographic Channel. The title is "Most Aggressive Breeds".

I found one of his closing quotes to be perfect for this thread...
"So next time you hear about a dog attack, please don't just blame the dog or its breed. Let's all make sure everyone understands why the dog became that way - because of the human in that dog's life."
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I'm a huge fan of both Pits and Rotts and hope to own one of the two soon.

The thing I feel though is you have to be VERY careful of those that you get from shelters, especially if they have had a background full of abuse.

And training is SO important with any dog. I work with dogs and nothing pisses me off more than a dog that walks you instead of you walking it. Just spend the $150 (at Petsmart. There are some places that offer training for free), take an 8 week course, keep up the training at home and it makes everyone so much happier and I'm sure the furniture and carpet will appreciate it too.

That being said, you have to be careful with kids around ANY sort of dog. Just because rotts and pitts are known to be aggressive (with bad training/owners) doesn't mean if you don't piss off the local golden retriever enough it won't snap at you.

Oh and if you wanna talk aggressive breeds... Look no further than a chihuahua. Those things are little rat bastards.
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Besides teaching my dogs how to sit, come, walk on a leash, and a few other things I have never had to teach them how not to attack people. I guess that's what has to be done if you own a dangerous dog. I'm thinking if I have to teach a dog not to attack then its probably not a good idea for a family pet.
Just find an old stuffed animal , put it in a .... cowturd , iggle or giants jersey and tease the hell out of the dog/s .... and let us know what happens
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