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Old 05-25-2010, 01:26 PM   #166
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Because its one mile beneath the sea. You act like corporations maek decisons based on logic. theya re steady trying to suck that oil up think about every attempt so far. No attempt to block the well just attempts to siphon.
What has BP or the gov't said in response to this? is there a good reason why they wouldnt want to try and block the hole? idk but maybe blocking the hole could make things worse.

i not nearly as up to date on this, but has anyone heard or read a reason why, so far, the curative attempts dont include blocking the leak?

ill look it up.
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Old 05-25-2010, 01:27 PM   #167
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The bottom line is that its been 34 days where basically nothing has been accomplished. That's unacceptable by any stretch of the imagination.

The answer is blatantly obvious. BP stands to lose nothing by delaying anything. Some half-assed attempt at fixing the spill will eventually work due to process of elimination, and then BP and the media will go all "yay for BP" because they fixed the mistake.

People as a whole are dumb and will forget that BP caused the spill, they will just be happy that BP fixed it. That in turn boosts the companies image and the oil industry as a whole.

Especially the poor people down in the gulf affected areas. They will care 2 shits about it once the BP checks start rolling in. There are legitimate people who are suffering and deserve the aid checks, but bet your last bottom dollar that both BP and the government are looking at ways to profitize this somehow.

Did anyone pay attention about the 33 cent per barrel tax? WE WILL PAY HIGHER PRICES AT THE PUMPS. That tax will pay for BP to keep cleaning the spill, so they don't absorb all of the cost from their own money. Gov't and Oil companies go hand in hand, and when we start paying much more at the pump, their profits go up again. And if you don't believe me about the tax look it up. Obama is trying to push it as we speak and they could vote it into law by the end of next week!

This is going to look biblical when it's over. Those dispersants are killing everything it comes in contact with. Any industry that controls the life blood of all the country should be under governemnt control in my opnion. When you have 300 million peopl dependant on a business owned by 3 corporations, the coproporation take on a role simiilar to government.
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Where has critical thinking and reason gone in the days of the internet? It truly saddens me that nearly all political dialogue is now so full of ideology, and lacks alot of semblance of rational thought.

JTF - I defended both the gov't (which is a rarity for me) and BP. An accident of this magnitude is not easily managed, and both parties are in fact trying to get control of it.

SS84 - Crude sells at about $80 a barrel right now. 33 cents on $80, is a blip and if it helps clean the environment then it's probably worth it. Every human depends on oil for many various things, a 33 cent per barrel increase ain't gonna kill us. Of course they won't limit it, and the government in the end will collect far more than the clean up cost but still lets not act like the 33cents is an inordinate burden. Of course we will end up paying for it. BP is going to raise prices to cover their operating costs, and maintain the profits their investors expect.

For any other knee jerkers out there: An Introduction to Critical Thinking
I agree with your comments to me. I feel though, that making US pay for something we didn't bring on ourselves is wrong. BP should pay for this in full, all of the cleanup costs, and the aftermath. And if it kills them as a company, then so be it.

The American people have suffered from this enough. We shouldnt have to pay 1 cent for something they did.
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BP unveils fifth strategy to plug Gulf of Mexico oil leak - Business News, Business - The Independent

i googled "why hasnt BP tried to block oil leak" and came up with a zillion articles re. BP's efforts to block/plug the oil leak.

the one above i read, it covers the steps and attempts BP has taken so far. its from england and glosses over things but im sure an inquiring mind could read more detailed articles re. their efforts to plug the hole.

So,the idea that BP hasnt tried to plug or block the hole is far from the truth it seems.
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I think it's safe to say everyone involved has a strong interest in getting the leak fixed sooner rather than later. The idea that BP isn't losing anything or will quickly recoup the costs of this is ridiculous.

I heard the latest idea for a fix is to shoot Rush Limbaugh into the leak. He should have no problem plugging it up.
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I agree with your comments to me. I feel though, that making US pay for something we didn't bring on ourselves is wrong. BP should pay for this in full, all of the cleanup costs, and the aftermath. And if it kills them as a company, then so be it.

The American people have suffered from this enough. We shouldnt have to pay 1 cent for something they did.
Let's say I agreed with your statements - I don't but I will set that aside for this discussion. The US government declares BP has full fiscal responsibility for cleanup and aftermath costs. BP agrees, and further agrees that the US citizens should not pay for it. They set aside xxx billion dollars, out of their profits. Now they continue selling oil, and processing it. How do you figure out that they didn't pass the costs down the line through normal operating costs?
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Another beauty of capitalism, the costs always get passed down to the consumer.
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Exactly right.
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It just looks like they won't have this thing plugged anytime soon - or at least soon enough. The damage one to the sea life along the floor of the Gulf is unimaginable at this point.
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latest word from the BP twitter is that they have delayed "Top Kill" again indefinatley , and their hope now is that the relief wells fix the problem. They said there is too much reasonable doubt, and that a failed attempt could make the spill worse.

20,000 barrells a day are pumping out and a failed attempt could make it 100,000 gallons or more per day.

The relief wells wont be finished for 2 to 3 months....yay for BP
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When it's all said and done, this incident should be the text book example of the do's and don'ts for drilling in the future.
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doing the math here, in 60 days, when the relief wells are finished, and assuming they work,(Dont assume anything with Bastard Petroleum) We are looking at about 5 to 6 million barrels of oil spilled in the gulf, which is about 24 times the amount of the exxon valdez, which was previously the worst oil disaster in World History
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When it's all said and done, this incident should be the text book example of the do's and don'ts for drilling in the future.
Just like the bubonic plague was a lesson on higene for the future. We can't afford these types of mistakes. Busineses pride themselves on risk management. That goes out the window when people know that the American tax payer got everybody's back.
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doing the math here, in 60 days, when the relief wells are finished, and assuming they work,(Dont assume anything with Bastard Petroleum) We are looking at about 5 to 6 million barrels of oil spilled in the gulf, which is about 24 times the amount of the exxon valdez, which was previously the worst oil disaster in World History
Your math may be a bit off, this is what I read this morning:

The oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico has dumped over 6 million gallons of oil into the ocean, according to the New York Daily News, but scientists believe that the actual number could be more than twice that, according to the Associated Press.

The Exxon Valdez spill in 1989, dumped 11 million gallons into the ocean. The difference, proximity. The Deepwater Horizon spill is only 50 miles off of the coast of Louisiana.

White House Says The Gulf Oil Spill Is Worst In US History – IndyPosted
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