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Old 06-18-2010, 11:31 AM   #16
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How would a person kill the internet without shutting down all communications? You would have to shut down cable, satellite systems, telephone connections, etc... to shut down the internet if my thinking is correct.
actually, if you kill the core dns servers that handle routing, and push blank routing tables out, you would effectively shut it down. That's why the Australian article fascinated me, most of the web is free flowing, but certain core functions are housed in the US, so this type action would not only affect us, but the whole globe. Thats a lotta power.
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Old 06-18-2010, 12:05 PM   #17
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actually, if you kill the core dns servers that handle routing, and push blank routing tables out, you would effectively shut it down. That's why the Australian article fascinated me, most of the web is free flowing, but certain core functions are housed in the US, so this type action would not only affect us, but the whole globe. Thats a lotta power.
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actually, if you kill the core dns servers that handle routing, and push blank routing tables out, you would effectively shut it down. That's why the Australian article fascinated me, most of the web is free flowing, but certain core functions are housed in the US, so this type action would not only affect us, but the whole globe. Thats a lotta power.
Yeah it would be quite easy to shut things down. In fact with how reliant we are now on the net it's only a matter of time before terrorists pull off a major attack on it.
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Old 06-18-2010, 12:16 PM   #19
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Without going into too much detail, critical government infrastructure (DoD, DoE, DHS) is isolated from general internet traffic and there are security measures and safeguards in place to protect against cyber-attacks which are ongoing constantly.

This bill is just another case of not "letting a crisis go to waste".
Totally agree. Reason number 873 that I can't stand this stinking administration.
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This is a power grab by this administration....oh wait, the last one had a similar plan. Cyber security is a serious issue fellas whether you like it or not...is a kill switch the answer? I don't know but I do know it was for BP's oil spill.
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Old 06-18-2010, 12:50 PM   #21
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So, what is the purpose of this bill? What do they intend to prevent/control? They can shut down all the bullshit they want, but they can never stop individuals from using existing hardware, software and communication protocols -- regardless of what they do to ISPs, name servers, or anything else. This would not stop people who understand these relatively simple protocols from using them to communicate between known hosts. A truly ignorant bill, IMO.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:01 PM   #23
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Without going into too much detail, critical government infrastructure (DoD, DoE, DHS) is isolated from general internet traffic and there are security measures and safeguards in place to protect against cyber-attacks which are ongoing constantly.
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Yeah but if Megatron and the Decepticons can hack it, you just can't be sure!

Basically, what happened is Lieberman just saw Transformers, and wasn't watching Megan Fox, and realized a national security threat existed!
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This is a power grab by this administration....oh wait, the last one had a similar plan. Cyber security is a serious issue fellas whether you like it or not...is a kill switch the answer? I don't know but I do know it was for BP's oil spill.
Sigh. Can just one liberal take criticism of Obama and Co without referencing Bush?

Too many lefties out there see critics of Obama as Bush endorsers. It's not that black and white (no pun intended ).
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So, what is the purpose of this bill? What do they intend to prevent/control? They can shut down all the bullshit they want, but they can never stop individuals from using existing hardware, software and communication protocols -- regardless of what they do to ISPs, name servers, or anything else. This would not stop people who understand these relatively simple protocols from using them to communicate between known hosts. A truly ignorant bill, IMO.
Without the dns servers, which handle the routing, the internet does not work, known host or not, if they blank the dns caches then unless you have a point to point connection, you aren't communicating.

I am certain it's oversimplification, but honestly, if the government approves this, and forces every provider to have a procedure in place, much like they do with the Emergency Broadcasting System, then they certainly could enforce an internet shutdown.
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So, what is the purpose of this bill? What do they intend to prevent/control? They can shut down all the bullshit they want, but they can never stop individuals from using existing hardware, software and communication protocols -- regardless of what they do to ISPs, name servers, or anything else. This would not stop people who understand these relatively simple protocols from using them to communicate between known hosts. A truly ignorant bill, IMO.
Umm, I imagine routing will be disabled and your requests will be ignored altogether.
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Sigh. Can just one liberal take criticism of Obama and Co without referencing Bush?

Too many lefties out there see critics of Obama as Bush endorsers. It's not that black and white (no pun intended ).
Why are you surprised? That's standard party hack procedure. It's like after getting kicked in the balls, the kicker says, "Why are so pissed? I don't remember you saying anything when so-and-so slept with your wife?"
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Sigh. Can just one liberal take criticism of Obama and Co without referencing Bush?

Too many lefties out there see critics of Obama as Bush endorsers. It's not that black and white (no pun intended ).
Well maybe if you weren't so inclined to label it as a simple power grab, which isn't a criticism, and instead pointed out the terribleness of the idea and suggested better approaches to securing the nation's network I might be inclined to give you a more thoughtful response. Until then I'm going to give you the same effort.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:40 PM   #29
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It's like I said, it's not about money anymore. The central gang-banksters can make money up out of thin air. It's about control. Obama is just a puppet, just like the jack-ass he replaced. The Internet allows people to get different information than the hammer and sickle news agencies who mislead the public into debt, war, and servitude. They don't want you to think for yourself and make up your own mind. They want you to believe in the phony left-right / WWF BS so they can MF and control you. They want to silence people like Matt Drudge, Steve Quayle, Alex Jones, Lew Rockwell, George Noorey, and Gerald Celente because they're not on the payroll of the central banks. This is also why they want to make everyone come to them to be licensed "journalist". They want you hooked on their propaganda so you'll be as calm as hindu cows when you hit the water.
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Well maybe if you weren't so inclined to label it as a simple power grab, which isn't a criticism, and instead pointed out the terribleness of the idea and suggested better approaches to securing the nation's network I might be inclined to give you a more thoughtful response. Until then I'm going to give you the same effort.
Sorry, I missed your proposal for securing the nation's network. I must have been too busy supporting Bush. Que facepalm...
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