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Old 06-27-2010, 08:58 AM   #136
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they say kids.. fox says first graders

they probably would've put kindergartners had they been able to spell it correctly
And so you continue the cycle of hyperbole. Nice.
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Old 06-27-2010, 09:46 AM   #137
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And so you continue the cycle of hyperbole. Nice.
And notice how FOX News has somehow hacked into MSNBC and taken over their site as well

1st graders can ask for condoms - Local News - Cleveland, OH - News - msnbc.com
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Old 06-27-2010, 09:50 AM   #138
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I am well qualified to speak on the subject without having had children of my own. I am my father son and he has tought me how to make good decisions. I have never felt I couldn't go to him for advice and I did all the time. No matter what is advice came first.
Your father has done a good job and I'm sure is a remarkable man (but how'd you get so misguided politically ).

Anywho, both you and dmek have valid points. Unfortunately there are outside influences that as a parent you don't have control over. Often those outside influencers aren't the best. Every family situation and external environment are different, as is every person. All you can do is lay the best moral groundwork and constantly communicate with your kids (even when they're teenagers and that's the last thing they want to do). That and a good deal of prayer are the best you can do.
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Old 06-27-2010, 10:07 AM   #139
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they say kids.. fox says first graders

they probably would've put kindergartners had they been able to spell it correctly
No, you're right, it's just Fox News.

Condoms for First Graders? Mass. Elementary School Under Fire - - CBS News

School could start handing out condoms to first graders - WIS News 10 - Columbia, South Carolina |
(NBC affiliate)

Outrage Over Plan To Give Condoms To First Graders - KTLA

Mass. school district to distribute condoms to any age student -
(USA Today)

Condoms For Elementary Students? Yes, Says Mass. Town - Boston News Story - WCVB Boston
(a couple sentences in mentions first graders)

1st graders can ask for condoms - Local News - Cleveland, OH - News - msnbc.com
(this and several other MSNBC links when googled mention 1st graders in the headline)
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Your father has done a good job and I'm sure is a remarkable man (but how'd you get so misguided politically ).

Anywho, both you and dmek have valid points. Unfortunately there are outside influences that as a parent you don't have control over. Often those outside influencers aren't the best. Every family situation and external environment are different, as is every person. All you can do is lay the best moral groundwork and constantly communicate with your kids (even when they're teenagers and that's the last thing they want to do). That and a good deal of prayer are the best you can do.
You can't shape the world around your children, you can only shape how they see it. That is the only control you have and should expect to have.
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What if the school board reverses its decision and a bunch of parents upset about the reversal start setting up camp in front of schools and start giving kids free pamphlet on sex education and condoms? How are you going to handle that?
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You can't shape the world around your children, you can only shape how they see it. That is the only control you have
well said

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and should expect to have.
It's easy to say and you're exactly right, but the parental bonds always give you a feeling of wanting to do everything you can to protect your kids, even if you know it's not reasonable or feasible.
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What if the school board reverses its decision and a bunch of parents upset about the reversal start setting up camp in front of schools and start giving kids free pamphlet on sex education and condoms? How are you going to handle that?
Media and talk radio would have a field day, it would be great for business in Provincetown.
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Old 06-27-2010, 03:06 PM   #144
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What if the school board reverses its decision and a bunch of parents upset about the reversal start setting up camp in front of schools and start giving kids free pamphlet on sex education and condoms? How are you going to handle that?
Honestly , use force , it actually works well at times . If Mr. Smith gave my son a condom , then got his girl pregnant , is Mr. Smith now financially responsible for the child ? Honestly , any parent that wants to print pamphlets on sex-ed should print them .... for their kids ... not to give them to those parents would rather it be a private / family matter . That would be like me having MMA training in my basement , and allowing kids who's parents objected to that kind of sport train ..against their wishes . I just believe that each parent should be able to raise their kid , not having to worry about their neighbor . IMO , the schools should have to have consent from the parents in regards to medicine or condoms .
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A couple of things: first, where in the article is the political affiliation of this school board or town identified? Firstdown and Buster, you are just assuming, asserting that some strange town behaving strangely is part and parcel of a larger "left" plot to ultimately show porn in schools and discredit the bible or whatever, and not just the bizarre and somewhat inexplicable maneuvering of an obscure school board in the middle of nowhere (a school board which may in fact be solidly republican, although that's unlikely). And even if the school board is predominantly liberal, or ick, even gay, from what do you conclude that their goofy school boarding represents some sort of larger political trend? This is what I term the outrage culture, in which the media spoon feeds people largely meaningless, completely symbolic stories about people in other towns doing crazy outrageous things, and tells these people that said stories somehow represent larger national trends, in this case the left's plan to turn your cute little first grader into a camel porn watching fornicating gay Muslim, meanwhile distracting from issues of actual substance. This is a non-issue. If you don't like the board's policy, don't move to that town. End of story.

Second, Buster, you should really see a therapist. So much anger! At least Firstdown seems like a nice guy.

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Absolutely agree. I haven't wanted to post anything, I've just been reading this and it made me think of a number of our more controversial threads. Basically we'll have an extremely sensible post that basically neither side could argue against like this one.

Instead, both sides ignore and just want to continue to attacks back and forth...
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Honestly , use force , it actually works well at times . If Mr. Smith gave my son a condom , then got his girl pregnant , is Mr. Smith now financially responsible for the child ? Honestly , any parent that wants to print pamphlets on sex-ed should print them .... for their kids ... not to give them to those parents would rather it be a private / family matter . That would be like me having MMA training in my basement , and allowing kids who's parents objected to that kind of sport train ..against their wishes . I just believe that each parent should be able to raise their kid , not having to worry about their neighbor . IMO , the schools should have to have consent from the parents in regards to medicine or condoms .

So if I setup an information booth right outside your kids school and I offered sex ed material and free condoms you'd try to physically harm me?
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So if I setup an information booth right outside your kids school and I offered sex ed material and free condoms you'd try to physically harm me?
Dancing on the bar with no panties on. I was sheltered, my mom home schooled me.
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Old 06-28-2010, 12:16 PM   #148
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Sorry I feel like I started this thread and then ran off but I did have a great weekend at the beach. I wonder how some here would have reacted to his as it kind off relates to this situation.

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You can't shape the world around your children, you can only shape how they see it. That is the only control you have and should expect to have.
Awesome.

I would take it a step further, to say that trying to shape the world around your children is an impediment to their development into rational, critical thinkers, who are able to withstand the pressure of their peers, and society in general.
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So if I setup an information booth right outside your kids school and I offered sex ed material and free condoms you'd try to physically harm me?

The scary part is I can kind of picture you doing this and by the way I bet you would get arrested.
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