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Old 11-22-2004, 09:54 PM   #16
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What barriers? Shoot, some naked guy (ONE PERSON) made it out onto the field at the SUPER BOWL for goodness sakes. Now, imagine something like what happened in Detroit the other night happen at Lincoln Financial in Philly. It would make the Pistons/ Pacers brawl look like a broadway musical. Just look at what happened in the Clemson/ SC game with no fan involvement...
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:32 AM   #17
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The guy who threw the first cup of beer sounds like a real winner:

escaped from prison??
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Old 11-23-2004, 02:51 AM   #18
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nice... and by barriers, i mean the seating for fans is elevated and behind a wall thats got some height... in the nba, fans sit at the same level and about 5-10 feet from the court.
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Old 11-23-2004, 01:47 PM   #19
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nice... and by barriers, i mean the seating for fans is elevated and behind a wall thats got some height... in the nba, fans sit at the same level and about 5-10 feet from the court.
check this out: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/st...p-218788c.html
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Old 11-23-2004, 02:56 PM   #21
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Yeah, FedEx also has Dream Seats, but they're not as close as these.
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Old 11-23-2004, 05:34 PM   #22
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Showboating will make fans so angry they want to cause injury to a player? In the NFL you'd have to do a lambeau leap and have the fans pull you up for you to get into the stands. That's simply ridiculous. There was dancing all throughout the 80s and no one flipped out? Good luck lobbing a beer cup at a player. Not to mention, how's that upper tier going to get down Cpayne? File single file out of their nearest exit and all head down stairs so they can get to the lower level? That's ridiculous.

I still think this is completely on the fans and all of them should be banned for life. Especially that fat white kid who came down after the thing and tried to get in Artest's face.
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Old 11-23-2004, 06:00 PM   #23
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I still think this is completely on the fans and all of them should be banned for life. Especially that fat white kid who came down after the thing and tried to get in Artest's face.
I'll give things some time as the prosecutors sort things out, but some of those fans better be seeing some fines or jail time. There needs to be a message sent on this, otherwise fans will throw more stuff at players trying to bait them into a fight and the suspension that follows.
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Old 11-23-2004, 06:07 PM   #24
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I still think this is completely on the fans and all of them should be banned for life. Especially that fat white kid who came down after the thing and tried to get in Artest's face.
While I dont think its all on the fans, because Artest was way out of line. The fans were defintley out of line as well. I think they should all be banned for life, and all face fines, jail time, and everything the NBA players are facing. Its just as much on them as the players.
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Old 11-23-2004, 09:36 PM   #25
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Showboating will make fans so angry they want to cause injury to a player? In the NFL you'd have to do a lambeau leap and have the fans pull you up for you to get into the stands. That's simply ridiculous.
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There was dancing all throughout the 80s and no one flipped out?
Not nearly to the extent of what players do today. Players do it to rub it in the guy's face who he just beat, that's bad sportsmanship and should not be tolerated. Remember the TO incident in Dallas?

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Good luck lobbing a beer cup at a player. Not to mention, how's that upper tier going to get down Cpayne? File single file out of their nearest exit and all head down stairs so they can get to the lower level? That's ridiculous.
If someone up there wanted a piece of the action, they could certainly get to it. The lower bowl in most stadiums are bigger than a lot of NBA arenas.

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I still think this is completely on the fans and all of them should be banned for life. Especially that fat white kid who came down after the thing and tried to get in Artest's face.
Artest was trash before this incident. I'm not saying the fans didn't provoke a lot of it, but Artest had the chance to walk away.
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Old 11-23-2004, 11:15 PM   #26
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Next time I see you, I'm going to throw a full cup of beer on you. I'm curious to see your reaction.

If my lambeau leap comparisson isn't accurate, please, explain it to me. Rid me of my ignorance. TO on the star? I loved every second of it. So what if they dance? Don't wanna see it? Don't let em' score. Words from my man, Fred Smoot.

I guess you think Kenyon Martin, who was just like Artest, is trash too? Or maybe he's just young and stupid like Sean Taylor. He was able to walk away from Ben Wallace, he was lying on the scorers table doing nothing, and got assaulted with trash. If this were someone else in the stands. Both guys would be charged, but the guy who threw the cup would get much more as far as punishment goes.
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Old 11-23-2004, 11:36 PM   #27
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Artest was not innocent, it wasn't deserved, but he wasn't innocent. If you wanna throw a cup of beer at me, wait till I do something that's purpose is to tick you off. Even you know that if you intentionally try to tick people off (which is what Artest was doing by 'innocently' lying on the scorer's table), you should expect to irritate somebody to the boiling point at some point. As a professional (who has fans who would act the same way), he should understand this.

Around the edges of most football fields, there are stairways that lead right up to the stands for easy access for VIPs. Using the stairs, even Gilbert Brown could get into the stands without using a Lambeau leap (flop?).

I'm not just picking on Artest here, I think Stephen Jackson and Jermaine O'Neal should have been suspended just as long if not longer.

Sean Taylor can be classified as young and stupid at this point. His actions have not been nearly as severe as Artest's have in the past. If Taylor continues in footsteps of Artest, who has been a professional for 5 more years, I will classify Taylor as a piece of trash too.
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Next time we're playing football/basketball when you get hit kinda funny and are in pain just lying on the ground a second obviously taunting me. I shall sprint to my car and grab a beer. Now I just need to keep a beer in there!
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Old 11-23-2004, 11:53 PM   #29
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Are you saying that Artest was on the scorer's table because he was injured?
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Old 11-23-2004, 11:59 PM   #30
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He just got hit in the face by Ben Wallace. He was completely pissed, but he walked away. I'm sure it hurt a bit.
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