Tupac or Biggie

Chico23231 · 10-31-2010, 12:17 PM

YouTube - The Notorious B.I.G. & Lil' Cease - Wake Up Show Freestyle

Saved in my favs for youtube...must see for Biggie fans

firstdown · 11-01-2010, 11:36 AM

Both are scum and never figured out why people glorified their life. I see football players called scum here for allot less. I guess maybe NFL players are held to a higher standard then MTV. No telling how many kids copied them and are dead today or have killed coping them.

Monkeydad · 11-01-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Both are scum and never figured out why people glorified their life. I see football players called scum here for allot less. I guess maybe NFL players are held to a higher standard then MTV. No telling how many kids copied them and are dead today or have killed coping them.

I'd have to agree with this completely.

Mattyk · 11-01-2010, 12:11 PM

We're talking about their music, not their personal lives.

Monkeydad · 11-01-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

We're talking about their music, not their personal lives.

Can we really separate them? Their lyrics included the same glorification of drugs, sex, murder and violence as their lifestyles.

Tupac - Ambitionz Az A Ridah Lyrics

Tupac - Enemies With Me Lyrics

Notorious B.i.g. - Dead Wrong Lyrics

Notorious B.i.g. - Gimme The Loot Lyrics

firstdown · 11-01-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

We're talking about their music, not their personal lives.

Would you want guys like that on the Redskins?

Monkeydad · 11-01-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Would you want guys like that on the Redskins?

I think the football equivalents would be Pacman Jones and Lawrence Phillips.

hooskins · 11-01-2010, 12:24 PM

What would say about songs like Changes(Tupac)? Just ignore those, huh?

Mattyk · 11-01-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

Can we really separate them? Their lyrics included the same glorification of drugs, sex, murder and violence as their lifestyles.

Tupac - Ambitionz Az A Ridah Lyrics

Tupac - Enemies With Me Lyrics

Notorious B.i.g. - Dead Wrong Lyrics

Notorious B.i.g. - Gimme The Loot Lyrics

Their songs also reflected their backgrounds and upbringing. Reality often isn't a pleasant thing to look at or hear about.

Mattyk · 11-01-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Would you want guys like that on the Redskins?

Irrelevant.

I can appreciate the art even though I may not agree with the lifestyle of the artist. Again we're talking about two separate things.

firstdown · 11-01-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

What would say about songs like Changes(Tupac)? Just ignore those, huh?

I'm guessing that is not a bad song so I guess 1 out of 20 makes his music OK. I know most kids know better but you cannot tell me the inner city kids with no guidance are not influenced by these guys. Even some kids with guidance are influenced by them. I just don't understand gloifing what they do and are about.

firstdown · 11-01-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Irrelevant.

I can appreciate the art even though I may not agree with the lifestyle of the artist. Again we're talking about two separate things.

I understand that you can listen to their music and not be influenced but there are kids with no guidance in life or little guidance that cannot. Why not use their wrap to draw kids away from that life style instead of into that life style. I mean how many videos can one watch with a nice car, hot chick, and a fist full of money.

Mattyk · 11-01-2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I understand that you can listen to their music and not be influenced but there are kids with no guidance in life or little guidance that cannot. Why not use their wrap to draw kids away from that life style instead of into that life style. I mean how many videos can one watch with a nice car, hot chick, and a fist full of money.

That's an issue much bigger than music, and not something a song or video is going to fix.

KLHJ2 · 11-01-2010, 01:20 PM

Tupac, I don't care what he claimed he was from the east coast.

saden1 · 11-01-2010, 01:21 PM

No one, is perfect but when it comes to music Pac is as close as it gets. He is poet and if anyone liking his music bothers you that's on you.

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firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 49 Posts: 15,206	Re: Tupac or Biggie Both are scum and never figured out why people glorified their life. I see football players called scum here for allot less. I guess maybe NFL players are held to a higher standard then MTV. No telling how many kids copied them and are dead today or have killed coping them.

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saden1 Eternally Legendary Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 33 Posts: 9,738	Re: Tupac or Biggie No one, is perfect but when it comes to music Pac is as close as it gets. He is poet and if anyone liking his music bothers you that's on you. __________________ RG3, RGIII, RG三, RG३, RGγʹ, RGג, RG٣, RG๓, RG..., RG셋, RGԳ!

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