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11-01-2010, 02:33 PM
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| Uncle Phil   Join Date: Feb 2004
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| Re: Tupac or Biggie Quote:
But I read your post and, as has been stated elsewhere here, you probably didn't pay enough attention to many of their lyrics. And that's fine, maybe you're not a fan. But if you're going to blast them for basically "glorifying a thug life" you should maybe pay more attention to what they actually said. Here are two guys who fought poverty, single parent homes, and crime-ridden streets and used their talents to build/try to build a better life for themselves and their families. Actually sounds like a lot of Redskins players
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11-01-2010, 03:39 PM
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| Playmaker  Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond
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11-01-2010, 03:40 PM
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| Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond
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Yeah, everyone knows Ja is the realist without a doubt, but this thread is just about Pac & Big.
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11-01-2010, 04:06 PM
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11-01-2010, 04:31 PM
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| Re: Tupac or Biggie ^ if someone tried to kill you and then, as young single male, you had the oppertunity to bang their hot wife would you pass up the oppertunity? Its like Oliver Twist asking for more porridge. Yeah he knew he wasn’t allowed to have more, but he did it anyways. Sometimes stories suck when theres no antagonist.
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11-01-2010, 04:39 PM
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11-01-2010, 04:45 PM
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| Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004
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| Re: Tupac or Biggie I have always been of the opinion that gangsta rap is the equivalent of junk tv, it's a cheap, mindless form of entertainment. And there's a place for that, but don't try to sell it to me as intellectually based criticism of culture. It's exploitative and ignorant for the most part. The above being a prime example.
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11-01-2010, 05:09 PM
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| Living Legend  Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 40
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11-01-2010, 05:11 PM
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| Camp Scrub  Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Locals Only Age: 31
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| Re: Tupac or Biggie Tupac...I have a book of poetry that he wrote-The Rose That Grew From Concrete... His talent was sensational! "A coward dies a thousand deaths...A soldier dies but ONE!! " |
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11-01-2010, 05:40 PM
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11-01-2010, 05:56 PM
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| Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond
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11-01-2010, 06:00 PM
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| Inactive  Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 38
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| Re: Tupac or Biggie Write a poem about your struggles and see how many albums it sells. Your distaste should not be about rap it should be for the society and lifestyle that caused it. Nobody wants to be a thug and promote that lifestyle, but they can only speak of their own experiences. America gets off on tragedy because the majority of the populatation experiences and embraces it because it's all the know. |
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11-01-2010, 06:00 PM
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11-01-2010, 06:04 PM
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| Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004
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11-01-2010, 06:30 PM
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| Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 38
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| Re: Tupac or Biggie Quote:
Ask yourself why urban kids want to piss their parents off. Perhaps they were wronged in one way shape or form? IDK maybe a father left when they were a child or was too drunk to take interest in his chils life, or perhaps their mother was addicted to drugs and didn't provide the proper level of attention necessary to nourish a child. Art is a depiction of life through the narrators eyes whether it be through a visual or audio description. Just because you do not think that it is high art doesn't mean that it isn't. Again we go back to opinion and what others can relate to and or crave. You're right, someone who is going to act on a negative impulse is going to do so regardless of influence. That is why your argument that "such behavior is glorified with a heightened significance" holds no water. Everyday people do things that they are not proud of and have the guts to tell the tale. Some people use those examples as motivation, as we agreed, and were going to act on their own impulses anyway and others are just intrigued and informed by it. Last edited by KLHJ2; 11-02-2010 at 10:42 AM. | |
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