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Old 04-21-2011, 10:08 AM   #1
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Judgement Day: T2 Style.....

Okay Ill start this off by stating this might make me sound a little crazy…….

As im sure most of you know and what I realized this morning is that April 21, 2011 (TODAY!) is the day Skynet began its attack on the human race……

About a month ago I read a Time article call 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal, which lead me to a book called The Singularity Is Near (which of course I didn’t waste my time reading; however, I did skim the wiki page). In the wiki page it listed a timeline of events (shown below) the author deems likely. I think everything up to 2025 seems reasonably possible (even if it takes 50 years longer to happen). After that point maybe its more speculation, but nothing really seems completely improbable (even if the times are way off).

Something else that the Time article and the book are also obviously about is the progression of technology and medical advances (even under Obamacare) at some point a certain group of people (rich people & citizens of rich countries) are going to become essentially immortal or in the least there will be a massive disparity between a rich country vs. a poor county’s lifespan average (150years vs. 50). So I guess my thoughts is when do you say okay we are no longer going to keep you alive artificially you are X number of years old; its time for you to live with no meds or other life sustaining products that will be available in the future.

No real questions here. Just rambling thoughts. Whenever I watch a movie like Terminator or iRobot I was like sure, but that’s a thousand years away…. Now im not so sure. I honestly felt sad the first time I read the timeline and thought that its actually possible in my lifetime that bad things could happen with robots. Will the trade offs for pornbots, maidbots and bestfriendbots be worth it if there are also deathbots?


Singularity: Kurzweil on 2045, When Humans, Machines Merge - TIME

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Old 04-21-2011, 10:08 AM   #2
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[edit] 2010
  • Supercomputers will have the same raw power as human brains (although not yet the equivalently flexible software).
  • Computers will disappear as distinct physical objects, meaning many will have nontraditional shapes and/or will be embedded in clothing and everyday objects.
  • Full-immersion audio-visual virtual reality will exist.
[edit] 2010s
  • Computers become smaller and increasingly integrated into everyday life.
  • More and more computer devices will be used as miniature web servers, and more will have their resources pooled for computation.
  • High-quality broadband Internet access will become available almost everywhere.
  • Eyeglasses that beam images onto the users' retinas to produce virtual reality will be developed. They will also come with speakers or headphone attachments that will complete the experience with sounds. These eyeglasses will become a new medium for advertising as advertising will be wirelessly transmitted to them as one walks by various business establishments.
  • The VR glasses will also have built-in computers featuring "virtual assistant" programs that can help the user with various daily tasks. (see Augmented Reality)
  • Virtual assistants would be capable of multiple functions. One useful function would be real-time language translation in which words spoken in a foreign language would be translated into text that would appear as subtitles to a user wearing the glasses.
  • Cell phones will be built into clothing and will be able to project sounds directly into the ears of their users.
  • Advertisements will utilize a new technology whereby two ultrasonic beams can be targeted to intersect at a specific point, delivering a localized sound message that only a single person can hear. This was demonstrated in the films Minority Report and Back to the Future Part II. See Sound from ultrasound.
[edit] 2014
  • Automatic house cleaning robots will have become common.
[edit] 2018
  • 10 Terabits (1013 bits) of computer memory—roughly the equivalent of the memory (RAM) space in a single human brain—will cost $1000.
[edit] 2020
  • Personal computers will have the same processing power as human brains.
[edit] 2020s
  • Computers less than 100 nm in size will be possible.
  • As one of their first practical applications, nanomachines will be used for medical purposes.
  • Highly advanced medical nanobots will perform detailed brainscans on live patients.
  • Accurate computer simulations of the entire human brain will exist due to these hyperaccurate brainscans, and the workings of the brain will be understood.
  • Nanobots capable of entering the bloodstream to "feed" cells and extract waste will exist (though not necessarily be in wide use) by the end of this decade. They will make the normal mode of human food consumption obsolete. Thus, humans who have injected these nanobots into their bloodstream will evolve from having a normal human metabolism and become humanoid cyborgs. Eventually, according to Kurzweil, a large percentage of humans will evolve by this process into cyborgs.
  • By the late 2020s, nanotech-based manufacturing will be in widespread use, radically altering the economy as all sorts of products can suddenly be produced for a fraction of their traditional-manufacture costs. The true cost of any product is now the amount of time it takes to download the design schematics.
  • Also by the later part of this decade, virtual reality will be so high-quality that it will be indistinguishable from reality.
  • The threat posed by genetically engineered pathogens permanently dissipates by the end of this decade as medical nanobots—far more durable, intelligent and capable than any microorganism—become sufficiently advanced.
  • A computer will pass the Turing test by the last year of the decade (2029), meaning that it is a Strong AI and can think like a human (though the first A.I. is likely to be the equivalent of a kindergartner). This first A.I. is built around a computer simulation of a human brain, which was made possible by previous, nanotech-guided brainscanning.
[edit] 2025
  • The most likely year for the debut of advanced nanotechnology.
  • Some military UAVs and land vehicles will be 100% computer-controlled.
[edit] 2030s
  • Mind uploading becomes possible.
  • Nanomachines could be directly inserted into the brain and could interact with brain cells to totally control incoming and outgoing signals. As a result, truly full-immersion virtual reality could be generated without the need for any external equipment. Afferent nerve pathways could be blocked, totally canceling out the real world and leaving the user with only the desired virtual experience.
  • Brain nanobots could also elicit emotional responses from users.
  • Using brain nanobots, recorded or real-time brain transmissions of a person's daily life known as "experience beamers" will be available for other people to remotely experience. This is very similar to how the characters in Being John Malkovich were able to enter the mind of Malkovich and see the world through his eyes.
  • Recreational uses aside, nanomachines in people's brains will allow them to greatly expand their cognitive, memory and sensory capabilities, to directly interface with computers, and to telepathically communicate with other, similarly augmented humans via wireless networks.
  • The economy transits in GDP percentage to more meta services such as reality fabrication, mind enhancement, mental software.
  • The same nanotechnology should also allow people to alter the neural connections within their brains, changing the underlying basis for the person's intelligence, memories and personality.
[edit] 2040s
  • Human body 3.0 (as Kurzweil calls it) comes into existence. It lacks a fixed, corporeal form and can alter its shape and external appearance at will via foglet-like nanotechnology. Organs are also replaced by superior cybernetic implants.
  • There will be social splitting into different levels of use of reality argumentation, from those who want to live in a life of imagined harems, or those who dedicate their thoughts to philosophical extension. Human society will drift apart in its focus, but with ever increasing capabilities to make imagined things occur.
  • People spend most of their time in full-immersion virtual reality (Kurzweil has cited The Matrix as a good example of what the advanced virtual worlds will be like, without the dystopian twist).
  • Foglets are in use.
[edit] 2045: The Singularity
  • $1000 buys a computer a billion times more powerful than the human brain. This means that average and even low-end computers are hugely smarter than even highly intelligent, unenhanced humans.
  • The Singularity occurs as artificial intelligences surpass human beings as the smartest and most capable life forms on the Earth. Technological development is taken over by the machines, who can think, act and communicate so quickly that normal humans cannot even comprehend what is going on; thus the machines, acting in concert with those humans who have evolved into postbiological cyborgs, achieve effective world domination. The machines enter into a "runaway reaction" of self-improvement cycles, with each new generation of A.I.s appearing faster and faster. From this point onwards, technological advancement is explosive, under the control of the machines, and thus cannot be accurately predicted.
  • The Singularity is an extremely disruptive, world-altering event that forever changes the course of human history. The extermination of humanity by violent machines is unlikely (though not impossible) because sharp distinctions between man and machine will no longer exist thanks to the existence of cybernetically enhanced humans and uploaded humans.
[edit] Post-2045: "Waking up" the Universe
  • The physical bottom limit to how small computer transistors can be shrunk is reached. From this moment onwards, computers can only be made more powerful if they are made larger in size.
  • Because of this, A.I.s convert more and more of the Earth's matter into engineered, computational substrate capable of supporting more A.I.s. until the whole Earth is one, gigantic computer (but some areas will remain set aside as nature preserves).
  • At this point, the only possible way to increase the intelligence of the machines any farther is to begin converting all of the matter and energy in the universe into similar massive computers. A.I.s radiate out into space in all directions from the Earth, breaking down whole planets, stars, moons and meteoroids and reassembling them into giant computers. This, in effect, "wakes up" the universe as all the inanimate "dumb" matter (rocks, dust, gases, etc.) is converted into structured matter capable of supporting life (albeit synthetic life).
  • Kurzweil predicts that machines will have the ability to make planet-sized computers by 2099, which underscores how enormously technology will advance after the Singularity.
  • The process of "waking up" the universe will be complete as early as 2199.
  • With the entire universe made into a giant, highly efficient supercomputer, A.I./human hybrids (so integrated that, in truth it is a new category of "life") would have both supreme intelligence and physical control over the universe. Kurzweil suggests that this will open up all sorts of new possibilities, including manipulation of the physical constants, inter-dimensional travel, and controlling the fate of the universe.
[edit] Some indeterminate point within a few decades from now
  • Space technology becomes advanced enough to provide the Earth permanent protection from the threat of asteroid impacts.
  • The antitechnology "Luddite" movement will grow increasingly vocal and possibly resort to violence, possibly a new World War, as these people become enraged over the emergence of new technologies that threaten traditional attitudes regarding the nature of human life (radical life extension, genetic engineering, cybernetics) and the supremacy of mankind (artificial intelligence). Though the Luddites might, at best, succeed in delaying the Singularity, the march of technology is irresistible and they will inevitably fail in keeping the world frozen at a fixed level of development. However, some nature preserves may be set aside for them to live in.
  • The emergence of distributed energy grids and full-immersion virtual reality will, when combined with high bandwidth Internet, enable the ultimate in telecommuting. This, in turn, will make cities obsolete since workers will no longer need to be located near their workplaces. The decentralization of the population will make societies less vulnerable to terrorist and military attacks.


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Old 04-21-2011, 10:13 AM   #3
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Yep, you're crazy.
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:19 AM   #4
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Proof that you can celebrate 4/20 a little too hard.
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:45 AM   #5
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Yea yea...call me when I can regenerate a limb and power my car with compost.
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:52 AM   #6
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I'll take the "not so crazy" side.

I saw this guy interviewed the other day (colbert I think). The basic premise is that technology is growing exponentially. He says we now make more technological advances in a few months than we used to in a century. A kid in Africa with a smartphone has more tools and information than the president did 15 years ago. Actually pretty interesting.

I'm more concerned with how the Warpath will look in 2045.
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Hmmm...Did you happen to see the robot that threw out the first pitch at the Phillie's game yesterday 4/20/2011? I say we are far cry from being dominated by the T-1000's.

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I'll take the "not so crazy" side.

I saw this guy interviewed the other day (colbert I think). The basic premise is that technology is growing exponentially. He says we now make more technological advances in a few months than we used to in a century. A kid in Africa with a smartphone has more tools and information than the president did 15 years ago. Actually pretty interesting.

I'm more concerned with how the Warpath will look in 2045.
Well yeah and with stamping machines they made a lot more weapons too

kids in africa have smartphones?
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hmmm...did you happen to see the robot that threw out the first pitch at the phillie's game yesterday 4/20/2011? I say we are far cry from being dominated by the t-1000's.

phillies fans boo baseball-tossing robot
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In the 1950's, people thought we would all be driving hovercars by now.
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The Singularity concept is rather accepted with scientific circles but the the "world dominated by machines" notion really isn't.
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Proof that you can celebrate 4/20 a little too hard.

serisouly harsh brah.....
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Hmmm...Did you happen to see the robot that threw out the first pitch at the Phillie's game yesterday 4/20/2011? I say we are far cry from being dominated by the T-1000's.

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wow philadelphia fans boo something? thats unheard of...
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wow philadelphia fans boo something? thats unheard of...

I think this time they were in the right that thing was so lame, I seriously could have built that robot.
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What did that robot do that a high school pitching machine couldnt?
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