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Old 06-22-2011, 04:41 PM   #16
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I'm not glade he is dead but I cannot feel sorry for him. I do feel sorry for his love ones who will hurt the most from his death.
I can agree with that. Especially his parents who are probably kicking themselves (unfairly so, as parents often do) that they didn't do enough to raise him right, or whatever it is. The human side of loss like this sucks.

But why am I glad? Because society is better off with drunk and reckless drivers being dead. The world's better today because he's gone.

Especially because I live 20 mins from West Chester, PA.
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:42 PM   #17
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yeah, i don't think there's anything to be glad about here. very sad and tragic all the way around.
That's ridiculous. Sad and tragic all the way around? Jesus H Christ. I get being sensitive to people's feelings and whatnot, but try getting in touch with your pragmatic side for a change.

It's sad and tragic for his family. But it's not sad and tragic for Ryan Dunn, he got what was coming.
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:50 PM   #18
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Let's talk about "sad and tragic" in degrees, to help put this in perspective, shall we?

Please rate the following events (some hypothetical) on a scale of 1 (least sad and tragic) to 5 (most sad and tragic):

- Ryan Dunn killing himself in a drunk driving accident

- Ryan Dunn causing a drunk driving accident injuring other drivers and also resulting in his own death

- Ryan Dunn causing a drunk driving accident killing other drunk drivers in other cars and also resulting in his own death

- Ryan Dunn veering off the side of the road while drunk and killing two 10 year old girls riding their bikes along the sidewalk
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He made a mistake, a big one. Sucks that he had to pay with his life. Dumb decision and nobody to blame but himself, but I can't say I'm glad he's dead.
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He made a mistake, a big one. Sucks that he had to pay with his life. Dumb decision and nobody to blame but himself, but I can't say I'm glad he's dead.
Do you think the roads around West Chester PA are at least a tiny bit safer today than they were three days ago? In the end that's all I'm driving at.

Maybe glad is the wrong word. Because I'm certainly not gleeful about it. But I definitely have that "justice was done" feeling.
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Schneed, this isn't some exercise in analytics. A man died -- very young and very tragically. That's the way I see it.

He got what was coming? Boy, I don't even know where to begin with that statement. I guess by that logic, we all have something coming to us in vary degrees since we all get away shit -- every day. Or is it that people that drink and drive and kill people that have something coming?

How about we agree that drinking and driving is really bad, stupid, and those that are caught doing so should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
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Schneed, this isn't some exercise in analytics. A man died -- very young and very tragically. That's the way I see it.

He got what was coming? Boy, I don't even know where to begin with that statement. I guess by that logic, we all have something coming to us in vary degrees since we all get away shit -- every day. Or is it that people that drink and drive and kill people that have something coming?

How about we agree that drinking and driving is really bad, stupid, and those that are caught doing so should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
#1 You danced around my questions posed directly to you. Exercise in analytics? I was merely trying to get you to put it in perspective because I find your perspective to be too sensitive to people's feelings, rather than calling it how it really is.

As for the bolded part, I would agree that anyone caught driving drunk should be prosecuted. But I would also say that I'm not feeling bad in the least for anyone who kills himself in that circumstance.

I mean you sound like you're eulogizing the guy. The sensitivity is so thick up in here it makes me want to vomit.
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:07 PM   #23
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Ultimately, anyone that unnecessarily does something that puts the lives of innocents at risk deserves what's coming.

If you drive drunk and die, you had it coming. If you get wasted and play with a shotgun in the presence of others, you had it coming. If you get high and decide to piss on the electric rail and you get your dick zapped off, you had it coming.

Tragic is a ridiculous word in this circumstance. Darwin Award is more apt.
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:08 PM   #24
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This is like the thread on Haynesworth's brother dying in a motorcycle crash all over again
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:11 PM   #25
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This is like the thread on Haynesworth's brother dying in a motorcycle crash all over again
I can't recall the facts, but I seem to remember he was either going way way too fast or was drunk. If either was the case, that's another perfect example of someone who got what was coming.
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#1 It's fun to dance around your questions.

Secondly, you lay out hypotheticals that never took place. Death is a raw reality, not coulda shoulda woulda. Let's deal with what happened. As far as I'm concerned had another person been killed, regardless of age, it would have compounded the tragedy, not made it less significant.

That's your prerogative that you don't feel bad for him. I don't think it makes you some tough insensitive guy that has a stick up his ass. Although sometimes I do think that about you
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This was a grown man.

It's tragic when a sixteen year old makes a terrible decision and gets behind the wheel after drinking and crashes into a tree.

Not so much when an adult who makes a living doing crazy things basically kills himself by having no regard for the consequences of driving his car on a winding road at 140 freakin miles an hour with a heavy buzz on.
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I can't recall the facts, but I seem to remember he was either going way way too fast or was drunk. If either was the case, that's another perfect example of someone who got what was coming.
He was going over 100 mph I believe. But I meant similar in the sense of your "I'm glad he's dead. He deserved to die" reaction.

My opinion? I find it hard to say I'm glad someone I don't know and who never did any harm to anyone I know is dead. By the same token, I'm not necessarily saddened by it, not his specific death. Maybe I'd be slightly moved if I was a Jackass fan. But as someone, like most of us, who has suffered a tragic loss and seen other suffer it, I do feel bad that a mother lost her child, a friend lost his buddy, a sister lost her brother (etc.).
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He was going over 100 mph I believe. But I meant similar in the sense of your "I'm glad he's dead. He deserved to die" reaction.

My opinion? I find it hard to say I'm glad someone I don't know and who never did any harm to anyone I know is dead. By the same token, I'm not necessarily saddened by it, not his specific death. Maybe I'd be slightly moved if I was a Jackass fan. But as someone, like most of us, who has suffered a tragic loss and seen other suffer it, I do feel bad that a mother lost her child, a friend lost his buddy, a sister lost her brother (etc.).
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Through a scene reconstruction, the police department also determined that Dunn was driving between 132 and 140 miles per hour when he lost control of his car and ran off the road. The county coronerís office previously classified the accidental death to be caused by blunt trauma and the heat of the fire from the explosion caused when Dunnís 2007 Porsche collided with trees.
He wasn't totally off on the speed.
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I'm glad he's dead. That's what one deserves when driving drunk. This is a much better punishment than a DUI or DWI.

Very glad he didn't take any responsible lives along with him.


Come on, this is exactly like the Haynesworth Brother thread. You really be glad at the death of someone, thats horrible. Even though he was extremely negligent and could have harm many more, I really glad he didnt. RIP
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