Catholic School Chant Upsets Foes....

skinsguy · 09-14-2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

From the Dictionary.com site:

Also called Native American, a member of the aboriginal people of America or of any of the aboriginal North or South American stocks, usually excluding the Eskimos.
2. any of the indigenous languages of the American Indians. Abbreviation: Ind
3. a member of any of the peoples native to or inhabiting India or the East Indies.
4. a citizen of the Republic of India
5. Slang . a person who performs a required task or carries out the instructions of superiors: We have too many chiefs and not enough Indians.

Exactly proved my point.

Hog1 · 09-14-2011, 01:46 PM

Pick your poison......
and who wrote the Dictionary's?

in·di·an/ˈindēən/
Noun: An American Indian.
Adjective: Of or relating to the indigenous peoples of America

In·di·an (nd-n)
adj.
1. Of or relating to India or the East Indies or to their peoples, languages, or cultures.
2. Of or relating to any of the Native American peoples except the Eskimos, Aleuts, and Inuits.
n.
1. A native or inhabitant of India or of the East Indies.
2.
a. A member of any of the Native American peoples except the Eskimos, Aleuts, and Inuits.
b. Any of the languages of these peoples.

Monkeydad · 09-14-2011, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Fools?!?!?!?

That's 'Intellectually disadvantaged', to you, sir!

Silence, NativeAmericanRodent

JoeRedskin · 09-14-2011, 03:21 PM

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Monkeydad · 09-14-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

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mooby · 09-14-2011, 03:23 PM

We still have honky?

WE STILL HAVE HONKY!!!!!

All is not lost.

Monkeydad · 09-14-2011, 03:24 PM

And cracker...oh wait...we don't say that about ourselves...it's one of those "allowed" slurs because it targets white people.

mooby · 09-14-2011, 03:41 PM

"Me and my cracker friends were driving down the street in my Volvo station wagon, and I said, hey cracker pass the Sun Chips, and he said not 'till we get to the picnic cracker, and I said cracker please, and then he said cracker what???"

Hilarious, one of my favorite bits of standup.

RedskinRat · 09-14-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Silence, NativeAmericanRodent

Actually, Monkeydad, we prefer to go by the more correct 'Indigenous Vermin', if you don't mind.....

Monkeydad · 09-15-2011, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Actually, Monkeydad, we prefer to go by the more correct 'Indigenous Vermin', if you don't mind.....

Disease Disbursement Unit.

Alvin Walton · 09-15-2011, 09:40 AM

Rats are Ravens without wings.

skinsguy · 09-15-2011, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

Pick your poison......
and who wrote the Dictionary's?

in·di·an/ˈindēən/
Noun: An American Indian.
Adjective: Of or relating to the indigenous peoples of America

In·di·an (nd-n)
adj.
1. Of or relating to India or the East Indies or to their peoples, languages, or cultures.
2. Of or relating to any of the Native American peoples except the Eskimos, Aleuts, and Inuits.
n.
1. A native or inhabitant of India or of the East Indies.
2.
a. A member of any of the Native American peoples except the Eskimos, Aleuts, and Inuits.
b. Any of the languages of these peoples.

As the history books has it, Christopher Columbus actually gave the Native Americans the name of "Indios" because he thought he had reached the East-Asian mainland. Of course, as time progresses and dictionaries change their definitions, the definitions of Native Americans and Indians eventually blend. Not a big deal, but I'd say it's only logical to think the more proper term would be Native Americans simply because they are native to America.

Monkeydad · 09-15-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Rats are Ravens without wings.

I thought it was the other way around!

mlmpetert · 09-15-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

Actually Native American would be more accurate since they are native to America. The term "Indian" describes those native to India.

I was talking about this on a long car ride over the weekend. Theyre actual not necessarily native to America, however; they are indigenous to America. I am a 100% native American as I was born here, however; im not a “Native American” proper noun.

Apparently this is why whenever you fill out something from the government you are not given the option of Native American (since it would apply to everyone born here), it usually says American Indian or something along those lines.

Also wiki has a whole section about terms used to convey American Indian’s and apparently many American Indians arnt cool with the Native American term we all think is so pc. Heres just the summary:

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Native Americans are more commonly known as Indians or American Indians, and have been known as Aboriginal Americans, Amerindians, Amerinds, Colored,[76][138] First Americans, Native Indians, Indigenous, Original Americans, Red Indians, Redskins or Red Men. The term Native American was originally introduced in the United States by academics in preference to the older term Indian to distinguish the indigenous peoples of the Americas from the people of India, and to avoid negative stereotypes supposedly associated with the term Indian. Because of the acceptance of this newer term in academic circles, some academics believe that Indians should be considered as outdated or offensive. Many actual indigenous Americans, however, prefer American Indian. Also, some people point out that anyone born in the United States is, technically, native to America, and that the academic who first promoted Native American confused the term native with indigenous. People from India (and their descendants) who are citizens of the United States are called Indian Americans or Asian Indians.

Criticism of the neologism Native American, however, comes from diverse sources. Many American Indians have misgivings about the term Native American. Russell Means, an American Indian activist, opposes the term Native American because he believes it was imposed by the government without the consent of American Indians. He has also argued that this use of the word Indian derives not from a confusion with India but from a Spanish expression En Dio, meaning "in God".[139] Furthermore, some American Indians[who?] question the term Native American because, they argue, it serves to ease the conscience of "white America" with regard to past injustices done to American Indians by effectively eliminating "Indians" from the present.[140] Still others (both Indians and non-Indians)[who?] argue that Native American is problematic because "native of" literally means "born in," so any person born in the Americas could be considered "native". However, very often the compound "Native American" will be capitalized in order to differentiate this intended meaning from others. Likewise, "native" (small 'n') can be further qualified by formulations such as "native-born" when the intended meaning is only to indicate place of birth or origin.

A 1995 U.S. Census Bureau survey found that more Native Americans in the United States preferred American Indian to Native American.[141] Nonetheless, most American Indians are comfortable with Indian, American Indian, and Native American, and the terms are often used interchangeably.[142] The traditional term is reflected in the name chosen for the National Museum of the American Indian, which opened in 2004 on the Mall in Washington, D.C..
Recently, the U.S. Census Bureau has introduced the "Asian-Indian" category to avoid ambiguity.

Additional:

Native American name controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think this PC crap (outside of intentionally hurtful and offensive name calling) is all too complicated and ridiculous in ALL instances. Seriously if youre a citizen here then youre absolutely nothing more than a plane old American.

skinsguy · 09-15-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I was talking about this on a long car ride over the weekend. Theyre actual not necessarily native to America, however; they are indigenous to America.

I don't know, I'm always under the assumption that native and indigenous are pretty much the same thing.

in·dig·e·nous

[in-dij-uh-nuh

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adjective 1. originating in and characteristic of a particular region or country; native (often followed by to ): the plants indigenous to Canada; the indigenous peoples of southern Africa.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I think this PC crap (outside of intentionally hurtful and offensive name calling) is all too complicated and ridiculous in ALL instances. Seriously if youre a citizen here then youre absolutely nothing more than a plane old American.

I agree.

09-14-2011, 01:46 PM	#17
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,376	Re: Catholic School Chant Upsets Foes.... Pick your poison...... and who wrote the Dictionary's? in·di·an/ˈindēən/ Noun: An American Indian. Adjective: Of or relating to the indigenous peoples of America In·di·an (nd-n) adj. 1. Of or relating to India or the East Indies or to their peoples, languages, or cultures. 2. Of or relating to any of the Native American peoples except the Eskimos, Aleuts, and Inuits. n. 1. A native or inhabitant of India or of the East Indies. 2. a. A member of any of the Native American peoples except the Eskimos, Aleuts, and Inuits. b. Any of the languages of these peoples. __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

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mooby MVP Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 24 Posts: 11,179	Re: Catholic School Chant Upsets Foes.... "Me and my cracker friends were driving down the street in my Volvo station wagon, and I said, hey cracker pass the Sun Chips, and he said not 'till we get to the picnic cracker, and I said cracker please, and then he said cracker what???" Hilarious, one of my favorite bits of standup.

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