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Old 07-23-2012, 03:02 PM   #151
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Side note: Peyton Manning individually calling each of the surviving victims in the hospital...awesome. Like when he called the beat reporters who covered him in Indy after he signed with the Broncos to thank them for their service.
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Old 07-23-2012, 03:13 PM   #152
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Side note: Peyton Manning individually calling each of the surviving victims in the hospital...awesome. Like when he called the beat reporters who covered him in Indy after he signed with the Broncos to thank them for their service.
I don't want to give props to Peyton for just this, I read an article somewhere (might be in the offseason thread) that mentioned a few Broncos went to one of the hospitals where they had a few of the victims at. That's a very nice move on their behalf, it's good to see the community rally together in an instance like this.
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I don't want to give props to Peyton for just this, I read an article somewhere (might be in the offseason thread) that mentioned a few Broncos went to one of the hospitals where they had a few of the victims at. That's a very nice move on their behalf, it's good to see the community rally together in an instance like this.
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This is a great example, to me, where the cops on scene could have done everyone a HUGE favor and shot the guy dead.

Now this nonsense of a trial will waste peoples time and money for the next few years.
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This is a great example, to me, where the cops on scene could have done everyone a HUGE favor and shot the guy dead.

Now this nonsense of a trial will waste peoples time and money for the next few years.
Clearly not the case, and more the plot of a movie than real life, but suppose this man was part of a larger conspiracy and taking him alive allowed us to find his other conspirators who had planned of a weekend long Joker siege. Or, what if he had been forced into this role by some dramatic form of blackmail.

Again, obviously as of now he looks like he was alone in it, but police on the scene should never be judge, jury, and executioner. The time and money cost is a reasonable expense to protect our society
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Clearly not the case, and more the plot of a movie than real life, but suppose this man was part of a larger conspiracy and taking him alive allowed us to find his other conspirators who had planned of a weekend long Joker siege. Or, what if he had been forced into this role by some dramatic form of blackmail.

Again, obviously as of now he looks like he was alone in it, but police on the scene should never be judge, jury, and executioner. The time and money cost is a reasonable expense to protect our society
He looked as guilty as a puppy sitting by a puddle of piss.

How is this charming fellow languishing in jail protecting anyone more that him being dead would.
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He looked as guilty as a puppy sitting by a puddle of piss.

How is this charming fellow languishing in jail protecting anyone more that him being dead would.
Well if they killed him he would have never told them about the bombs in his apt. Maybe a lot more people die and a whole apt building with many homes is destroyed. Plus i dont believe the cops could have had any way of knowing how horrible the situation was. He ran into them as he was leaving, they wernt chasing him through the carnage.

It sounds like the police and all the authorities acted flawlessly. Think about this 10 people were dead on site, 58 others injured many severely. So far only 2 of the injured have died.
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He looked as guilty as a puppy sitting by a puddle of piss.

How is this charming fellow languishing in jail protecting anyone more that him being dead would.
So find him guilty in a court of law, with due process, and then fry him. But not by a police officer's bullet.
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Well if they killed him he would have never told them about the bombs in his apt. Maybe a lot more people die and a whole apt building with many homes is destroyed. Plus i dont believe the cops could have had any way of knowing how horrible the situation was. He ran into them as he was leaving, they wernt chasing him through the carnage.

It sounds like the police and all the authorities acted flawlessly. Think about this 10 people were dead on site, 58 others injured many severely. So far only 2 of the injured have died.
Great point.
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Old 07-24-2012, 08:31 AM   #162
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God damnit, I hate the media at times. Remember when they had that quote from the mother that made it look like she knew something by her quote "yes, you have the right person". Looks like we have some selective editing by ABC.


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ABC News phoned Arlene Holmes at 5am PST, at her home in San Diego, Calif., according to notes and email records by ABC News producer Matthew Mosk, who placed the call.

Through her lawyer, Holmes today sought to clarify the remarks she made in that phone interview.

"I did not know anything about a shooting in Aurora at that time," Arlene Holmes's said in statement read by her lawyer today. "He [Mosk] asked if I was Arlene Holmes and if my son was James Holmes, who lives in Aurora, Colorado. I answered yes, you have the right person. I was referring to myself. I asked him to tell me why he was calling and he told me about a shooting in Aurora. He asked for a comment. I told him I could not comment because I did not know if the person he was talking about was my son and I would need to find out."
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:20 AM   #163
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Heart breaking stories of boyfriends protecting their girlfriends from harm and dying in the process.
Women Who Survived Theater Shooting Grieve for Hero Boyfriends - Yahoo!




Idiots being idiots.
3 arrested in separate 'Dark Knight' incidents - Yahoo! News


Dear god I hope this dude isn't a Redskins fan.

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Well if they killed him he would have never told them about the bombs in his apt.
The police don't just kick in the door of an apartment when they follow up, it's not like the movies. They would have proceeded with caution as the shootout would suggest evidence at the apartment that would need to be collected.
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:30 PM   #165
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Hey, that didn't take long for the first douche bag to show up. People like this make me rage. Big time. Bodies aren't even in the ground and he's thinking of how to get paid.


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Brown has hired attorney Donald Karpel to rep him. Karpel tells TMZ ... he is targeting 3 defendants.

1. The theater. Karpel claims it was negligent for the theater to have an emergency door in the front that was not alarmed or guarded. It's widely believed Holmes entered the theater with a ticket, propped the emergency door open from inside, went to his car and returned with guns.

2. Holmes' doctors. Karpel says it appears Holmes was on several medications -- prescribed by one or more doctors -- at the time of the shooting and he believes the docs did not properly monitor Holmes.

3. Warner Bros. Karpel says "Dark Knight Rises" was particularly violent and Holmes mimicked some of the action. The attorney says theater goers were helpless because they thought the shooter was part of the movie. Karpel tells TMZ, "Somebody has to be responsible for the rampant violence that is shown today."
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