Re: Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested? (rumor)
 

Let me say that I am not trying to piss on our O-line. First of all, I think we have a top 5 line.

That being said, we don't have dock at the moment. To say that Jansen is a potential pro-bowler is more than wishful thinking. To honestly believe that our line is better than Indianapolis' at this point in time is beyond blind faith. At this present time we have one legitamate pro-bowler. Thomas is a candidate but he is not the same player that he was in '05.

Re: Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested?!(from a primary source)
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;278109]we have a pro bowler Chris Samuels at LT and Randy Thomas and Jon Jansen are potential probowlers and dockery and rabach are solid

who is the LG, RG, and RT for the Colts I know i want you to tell me[/quote]

I don't want to hear "potential" I want to talk about reality. Jansen is on the downside of his career. Thomas is probably our best lineman but shoulda coulda woulda, he was hurt last year.

Our line was dominant between the 20s. Indy's was dominant inside the 20.

This is a moot point.

Re: Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested? (rumor)
 

Well i wouldnt make that deal unless extra picks were involved. But hey were talking about the skins so we probably throw our other two picks in too to get Ramsey back lol.

Re: Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested? (rumor)
 

I could see a three-way trade!! The Skins send Betts and Arch. to the Bears. The Bears send T. Jones to the Jets, and the Jets send the Skins Villma.

Re: Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested? (rumor)
 

[quote=Jayman;278310]I could see a three-way trade!! The Skins send Betts and Arch. to the Bears. The Bears send T. Jones to the Jets, and the Jets send the Skins Villma.[/quote]

Benson and Betts seem pretty similar to me. Why would the Jets dump Vilma for T. Jones who may be released at some point (since Benson was a #4 pick)?

Re: Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested?!(from a primary source)
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;277628]I think Portis has proven himself to be more than just a Denver system back.[/QUOTE]

Is it really even worth arguing that point anymore?

Re: Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested?!(from a primary source)
 

[quote=Grim21Reaper;278107]HA HA HA HA

Dude, it is Friday and I just got off work. Please pass what you are smoking.

Give me one example (besides that you typed it in capital letters) how our offensive line is better than Indy's.

I will give you three why they are better. Indy's offense finishes drives with touchdowns typically with runs, Indy's won the Superbowl. They have two pro-bowlers.

Your turn (in lowercase please).[/quote]

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Indy's line is better. Jeff Saturday is a stud at center. He was mauling people in the playoffs. Tarik Glenn is a beast too.

Re: Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested? (rumor)
 

not that this matters, but i was talking to a bunch of football fans at work. all of them say that they would do this trade in a heartbeat, if they are the skins. i tend to agree. betts is a backup that fumbles too much for my liking. and running back isn't one of our weaknesses. and Vilma is a proven MIDDLE linebacker. not someone us fans are trying to convert

Re: Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested? (rumor)
 

Two categories that offensive lines are judged on are rushing yards and sacks given up.

Just for the sake of throwing this out there the Skins were 4th in the NFL in rushing yards this year, the Colts were 18th. The Skins were 3rd in the NFL in sacks given up with 20, the Colts were #1 in the league and gave up 15.

Re: Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested? (rumor)
 

[QUOTE=dmek25;278634]not that this matters, but i was talking to a bunch of football fans at work. all of them say that they would do this trade in a heartbeat, if they are the skins. i tend to agree. betts is a backup that fumbles too much for my liking. and running back isn't one of our weaknesses. and Vilma is a proven MIDDLE linebacker. not someone us fans are trying to convert[/QUOTE]

I gotta agree, I think Ladell Betts is a very replacable football player and Vilma is a monster. I don't know, however, if I'd be willing to move down 19 picks in the first round in order to swap Vilma and Betts without picking up a later pick. This trade would be big for the Skins and they could go out and get another backup running back. Finally, I think Betts is probably gonna find his way back among the injured this season because he normally does, last year was an exception, rather than the norm for Ladell Betts. I think moving him to the Jets would be good for the Skins because they could pick up a need.

Also, I think it would be a decent gesture to allow Betts to go somewhere else and compete to be a #1 back, although that really shouldn't come into play when making the decision.

Re: Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested? (rumor)
 

betts for vilma straight up is a steal. but moving out of that #6 pick for a #25 gaurantees you're DL is going to be awful all of next year. if we got a monster DL guy instead, #25 overall is a great spot for a top tier MLB. linebackers are easier to get in the 2nd round. it's hard to find elite QBs/LTs/DEs/DTs outside the top 10-16 picks.

Re: Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested? (rumor)
 

The Jets just released Kevan Barlow which makes them even more determined to get a running back and are said to like betts will they be willing to add a extra draft pick to the trade now

Re: Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested? (rumor)
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;279399]The Jets just released Kevan Barlow which makes them even more determined to get a running back and are said to like betts will they be willing to add a extra draft pick to the trade now[/quote]Maybe. Hey, if they come running to us with a reasonable deal involving Vilma and Betts, we SHOULD do it. But we need to make it clear that we aren't shopping Betts.

Barlow sucks anyway, I don't think this changes the complexity of the deal any.

Re: Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested? (rumor)
 

Jets want to make a play for Michael Turner from what I've heard.

Re: Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested? (rumor)
 

[quote=TAFKAS;279435]Jets want to make a play for Michael Turner from what I've heard.[/quote]Smart move on their part. I'd be shocked if the Chargers tender him at less than the 1st round compensation level. For the Jets, that might actually be worth doing. Not a 1st and a 3rd though.