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[QUOTE=Daseal;404302]Gibbs had said over and over he would fulfill his contract. The whole 5 years. I was curious if someone would be upset over that. It's a fair gripe, in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

I believe he always used the phrase "it is my intention to fulfill the contract". I do not doubt he intended to. Circumstances sometimes get in the way of intentions. His personal life (family) is more important than Lombardi trophies.

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[quote=Lady Brave;404306]I'm talking about the fact that up until this point, whenever he was asked during prior seasons, if he would stay, he stated he intended on fulfilling his contract. He said it repeatedly. Don't say it, if you don't mean it. I have no problem letting him go if he's got a valid reason.[/quote]

I think he did mean it previously... then the Sean Taylor tragedy happened and he obviously had a change of heart when thinking of his family.

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[quote=cpayne5;404308]I believe he always used the phrase "it is my intention to fulfill the contract". I do not doubt he intended to. Circumstances sometimes get in the way of intentions. His personal life (family) is more important that Lombardi trophies.[/quote]

Yeah and since when can't people change their minds?

If his heart isn't in it, he would be doing everyone a huge diservice by coming back and just going through the motions.

Cut the guy some slack. I can't imagine from his point of view how difficult this season was.

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I think we need perspective on this. Fans can get angry at a guy like Petrino just walking away adn quitting for greed or selfish reasons. hell we can get mad at Spurrier for tanking the team into the ground and then bolting. But Joe brought this team back to respectability through some trying times and he isn't leaving the cupboard bare. He has honest to goodness struggles in his personal life to deal with. I have no ill will about this. Just disappointment.

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[quote=Lady Brave;404292]I am extremely upset about this. Don't say repeatedly you intend on fulfilling your contract and then walk away after the toughest and most gut wrenching season the Redskins organization has ever endured. It's not right. Unless Joe has a very good reason for not sticking around, I'm afraid my level of respect for him might be slightly diminished and I hate that feeling.

God, I am so pissed off right now and I just can't sit here and be all, "Well, good luck Joe, thanks for the memories." [B]I realize I sound like a complete drama queen right now[/B], but I don't care. I hope I feel differently after I hear him speak.[/quote]

[B]Yes you do.

[/B]If anything, you should respect Gibbs more after this season, from the way he held the team together and led them, to his love for his family over his career and personal success.

He fully intended to fulfill his contract coming in, but...life happens.

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[quote=Mattyk72;404311]I think he did mean it previously... then the Sean Taylor tragedy happened and he obviously had a change of heart when thinking of his family.[/quote]
I realize I sound really selfish right now. Like I said, I just want to hear it from him. However, right now, I'm upset.

I'm worried about the impact on this team. Frankly, I thought we were on the brink of something great and I wanted him to share in that when we finally did it. So much for my foolish, childlike dreams I guess. I need to come back to reality.

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[quote=Daseal;404289]I would mess myself if we got Scott Pioli or Floyd Reese.[/quote]

What makes anyone think they can repeat their success with another team?

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[quote=Lady Brave;404328]I realize I sound really selfish right now. Like I said, I just want to hear it from him. However, right now, I'm upset.

I'm worried about the impact on this team. Frankly, I thought we were on the brink of something great and I wanted him to share in that when we finally did it. So much for my foolish, childlike dreams I guess. I need to come back to reality.[/quote]

I'm looking forward to his presser today. I'm sure he'll explain everything.

My guess is he wouldn't be doing this if he wasn't absolutely sure that the team would be in good hands. Meaning I think he's going to hand things off to Gregg Williams, and keep as much of the current staff intact as possible.

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G. Will could be alright as long as Saunders stays for the O-fense. Guess we'll all wait and see what drastic changes our team will endure this offseason. Damn, I was just starting to feel our continuity too. Oh well here's another few years off my life thanks to the skins. But thanks for everything Joe and good luck in all of your endeavours. Enjoy your time on this earth brother

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[QUOTE=saden1;404336]What makes anyone think they can repeat their success with another team?[/QUOTE]

Don't you think that past success is indicative of future success? I'd say you'd have to have more faith in them than in someone who has NOT gotten it done at the highest level. We're not talking about guys who had a good year or two. They've demonstrated consistent skill at managing a NFL team.

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[QUOTE=Daseal;404289]I would mess myself if we got Scott Pioli or Floyd Reese.[/QUOTE]

For the first time in 4 years I may join the "We need a GM" bandwagon, pending notice of who is going to be our next HC.

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[quote=Lady Brave;404292]I am extremely upset about this. Don't say repeatedly you intend on fulfilling your contract and then walk away after the toughest and most gut wrenching season the Redskins organization has ever endured. It's not right. Unless Joe has a very good reason for not sticking around, I'm afraid my level of respect for him might be slightly diminished and I hate that feeling.

God, I am so pissed off right now and I just can't sit here and be all, "Well, good luck Joe, thanks for the memories." I realize I sound like a complete drama queen right now, but I don't care. I hope I feel differently after I hear him speak.[/quote]

You want him to announce his plans at the beginning of the season or during the stretch run? No one wants to be lame duck coach...Plus he has always maintained that he'll reevaluate his role at the end of the season. There is no valid reason to be angry with his decision.

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[quote=skinsnut;404282]Agree completely.
The roster Gibbs started with from Spurrier just flat out sucked.
He built a TEAM.

Thanks Gibbs for your hard work these last 4 years.
We will forever remember the Blowouts of Dallas, and the miracle comeback against them too.
The 5 game and 4 game runs to make the playoffs and your class handling the Sean Taylor situation.

You will forever be a Redskins Hero[/quote]


Man u hit it on the head!!!!!!!!!! great post.........

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Ok, from my perspective I wanted Gibbs back. I think we were very close to being an elite team this year (how many games did we have the lead in the 4th quarter and lose?), next year i think could have been great. now, if we don't keep Williams, we will risk having to start all over. I'm sick of that. Lets see what Williams and Co can do...

In terms of Gibbs 2.0: from an objective perspective (for the most part i think), it wasn't that impressive...we had two "good" (playoff years) where it took miracle runs (5 wins and 4 wins in a row to close the season) to make the playoffs. Under Gibbs 2.0, we'll have a losing record, 1 playoff win, and are currently 20 mill over next year's salary cap. his 4 years were plagued with poor clock management, conservatism, and frustration.

From a personal point, I think he did some very good things in terms of building player and fan morale, team chemistry, and expectations of winning. Are we better off now than before? I'll leave that for the other thread.

Overall, I'm sad to see Gibbs go (however frustrating I found these past seasons)...I just hope the team he build, doesn't' disintegrate with his removal.

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I'm a bit shocked, I thought Joe would stick it out the full 5 years. That being said, I am not at all unhappy with the situation. I have been a critic of Gibbs II and it will be interesting and exciting, for me at least, to see where the team goes from this point. I expect Williams to be named head coach. I have always been under the impression that he was snatched up and retained as he has been so that he could be the next head coach. I would be surprised if Saunders did not stay in his current position. His window of opportunity to be a head coach is closed now, he is a damn good coordinator and is compensated extremely well for what he does. What I see is a more wide open offense in the coming years with Gibbs no longer Saunders back.
As for the speculation of outside coaches, anything is possible, but Cowher, Grimm, are not realistic prospects for the job at this time.

Just a not about Cam Cameron - lets not forget that he was a Redskins assistant for three years under Norv, and former OC in San Diego. His record as a head coach at Indiana and Miami is atrocious, he seems like a guy who should soend his entire career as a coordinator.