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Its not all about td's. its about the little things such as converting on 3rd down. making plays to sustain drives. putting their teams in position to score/win.things that those guys did that our QB didnt.

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[quote=Nflnick11;566231]the point is that our defense put us in position to score, but JC or shuisham couldn't come thru, whereas flacco and the ravens could get some points[/quote]

No the point is the Bmore defense scored points and the skins didn't. That is why Ravens was still able to win without the QB throwing a ton of TDS whereas the skins struggled. That the real reason the were averaging 25 points a game.

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Ok, more "craaazy" stats...

[quote=Nflnick11;566219][B]kerry collins is better than JC [/B]and he's really the only subpar QB o and flacco that i would consider..flacco had no receivers and still did great, he took chances and won games for the ravens..[B]collins is a great passer can learn an offense in a season and perform, unlike campbell, and he had no receivers as well just a really good RB whose faster than portis, they're defense was as good as ours IMO...[/B][/quote]

Collins had great protection, as Tenn. tied for first as the team with the least QB sacks allowed, funny that you omitted this (well I guess that would hurt your argument).

Re: Colt Brennan Says He'll "Play A Ton" In The Preseason
 

[quote=DBUCHANON101;566236][B]Its not all about td's[/B]. its about the little things such as converting on 3rd down. making plays to sustain drives. putting their teams in position to score/win.things that those guys did that our QB didnt.[/quote]

Did you forget to use the quote feature again, kinda hard to have a dialogue if we don't know who you're talking too.

And I love the bolded quote by the way.

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[quote=redskinsgirl;566238]No the point is the Bmore defense scored points and the skins didn't. That is why Ravens was still able to win without the QB throwing a ton of TDS whereas the skins struggled. That the real reason the were averaging 25 points a game.[/quote]

The Ravens Defense scored 25 pts a game??? WOW :)
Our defense was 4th in the league, and maybe they would make big plays if they werent on the field most of the game because our offense couldnt sustain drives thanks to Mr Checkdown.

Re: Colt Brennan Says He'll "Play A Ton" In The Preseason
 

[quote=DBUCHANON101;566236]Its not all about td's. its about the little things such as converting on 3rd down. making plays to sustain drives. putting their teams in position to score/win.things that those guys did that our QB didnt.[/quote]

So it isn't about scoring TDs, but you all were complaining JC doesn't score enough TDs. That was your main gripe. You both said if JC woud have scored more TDS(about 20+) then the skins would have been in the playoffs. Now you are saying it isn't just about scoring TDs, but about sustaining drives, 3rd conversions.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;566241]The Ravens Defense scored 25 pts a game??? WOW :)
Our defense was 4th in the league, and maybe they would make big plays if they werent on the field most of the game because our offense couldnt sustain drives thanks to Mr Checkdown.[/quote]

Lol. You know I was talking about the team. A fourth ranked defense who couldn't score from defensive turnovers. The steelers and ravens defense didn't spend more time on the field than their offenses???

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[quote=irish;566085]Good video, Seeing JC's number really drive home how inadequate a QB he was last year. IMO, there has to be a reason both Gibbs & Zorn are reluctant to take the training wheels off when JC is the QB. I really believe the QB position is what's holding this team back.[/quote]...I'm shocked!

You should have responded to your own post talking about how numbers don't tell the whole story, Gibbs doesn't know what he's doing, and that this team can't be "held back" because Vinny and Dan don't know how to build a team in the first place.

You could have torn irish apart.

Re: Colt Brennan Says He'll "Play A Ton" In The Preseason
 

So a top 5 defense isnt good enough for us to win? :bs:

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A little bit more stats...

[quote=Nflnick11;566219]Warner is a lot better than JC, [B]he can make reads and is proven, being named MVP a few years ago, and going to 3 SB's[/B][/quote]

Great analysis there, you forgot to compare JC to Brady and Payton Manning (if you are looking for an easy argument I guess) :doh:. Anyway, Warner is an old QB and did pretty good throughout the season. It helped that AZ only allowed 28 sacks (tied 11th for the least sacks allowed) and he had two Pro Bowl wideouts (and arguably the best WR in Fitzgerald). Now, if you had thought about it a bit more (but I guess since you don't like stats), you could've made the argument that Warner won without having a running game (ranked at the bottom in the league) and with a crappy defense. However, I'm sure someone would have easily point out that the NFC West wasn't that competitive, allowing AZ to win the division with just one more win that our team, and the fact that AZ's defense came alive and finally complimented the offense during the playoffs.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;566241]The Ravens Defense scored 25 pts a game??? WOW :)
[B]Our defense was 4th in the league, and maybe they would make big plays if they werent on the field most of the game[/B] because our offense couldnt sustain drives thanks to Mr Checkdown.[/quote]

Ok! The Redskins defense would score more if they were on the sidelines than if they were on the field! Sure!

Re: Colt Brennan Says He'll "Play A Ton" In The Preseason
 

Our defense is better than ATL. so obviousley their offense did more to lead them to the playoffs. now what??

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[quote=Lotus;566247]Ok! The Redskins defense would score more if they were on the sidelines than if they were on the field! Sure![/quote]

NO SH&& Sherlock, ofcourse a rested defense will play better than a defense thats on the field most of the game. :doh:

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;566249]NO SH&& Sherlock, ofcourse a rested defense will play better than a defense thats on the field most of the game. :doh:[/quote]

There is not a shred of evidence to support the point that the Redskins defense would have scored more if it were more rested, especially since the defense finished at #4 in the league despite what you describe as conditions of fatigue. Can't admit that you said something dumb, can you?

So let's recap what we've learned tonight: Some Colt fans do not argue from evidence, or they cherry-pick their evidence by ignoring facts which contradict their claims. When caught red-handed making a foolish argument, they change the argument or respond with ad hominem attacks. Some Colt fans even wish harm on Redskin players. If these are the arguments for Colt then some Colt fans just make JC look better.

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It is what it is, the offense scoring 13 pts a game over the 2nd half of the season is why we missed the playoffs. And YES it all falls on the QB. He is the one with the ball in his hands, its his job to move the team down the field and put them in position to score.
He didnt get the job done which is why the FO tried to upgrade, which is why we couldnt trade him and is the same reason why he is now in the last yr of his contract.