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yea Locker did alright from what i hear on his proday. At least he has the best intangibles i think out of all the quarterbacks. A real leader. Not like Tebow but almost as good in that department. Accuracy is a lingering issue still

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;791338]The only change I would make is Cam Jordan as the pick rather than Smith. Jordan is a better fit at 3-4 DE than Smith and we don't need another 4-3 RDE convert to OLB project. Playing experience and injury also a concern with Smith.[/quote]

I'm with you. If we are adding teeth to the defense, let's get those teeth right up front. Jordan should be an excellent run stopper who can also rush the passer (thus freeing up Rak as Smith, at his best, would do) and he already has experience as a 3-4 DE.

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if we trade down into the late teens its to take Locker if we dont take him at 10

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We're not taking Locker at #10

The way I hear/see it-Gabbert and Newton are the first two QBs in the draft, both in the top 10 (neither to us). Ponder is moving up, possibly mid first (as much as I'd like him I find that stunning, but whatever), Mallet is a wild card. A lot of people think he'll be the 3rd overall QB taken simply because of his talent. The character issues most are putting aside, or so it seems right now.

That leaves Kaepernick, Dalton, and Locker as the next tier-possibly in that order. At least one of them will be available when we pick in the 2nd round.

And depending on what the Vikings and Niners do in the 1st round (and possibly free agency) re: their QB situation we could conceivably trade down as low as 50th overall with the Chargers and get our QB there and pick up a 3rd round pick

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[quote=SmootSmack;791381]We're not taking Locker at #10

The way I hear/see it-Gabbert and Newton are the first two QBs in the draft, both in the top 10 (neither to us). Ponder is moving up, possibly mid first (as much as I'd like him I find that stunning, but whatever), Mallet is a wild card. A lot of people think he'll be the 3rd overall QB taken simply because of his talent. The character issues most are putting aside, or so it seems right now.

That leaves Kaepernick, Dalton, and Locker as the next tier-possibly in that order. At least one of them will be available when we pick in the 2nd round.

And depending on what the Vikings and Niners do in the 1st round (and possibly free agency) re: their QB situation we could conceivably trade down as low as 50th overall with the Chargers and get our QB there and pick up a 3rd round pick[/quote]


True but what if shanny wants Locker enough to trade back into the late first? That's been mentioned by some draft experts.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;791382]True but what if shanny wants Locker enough to trade back into the late first? That's been mentioned by some draft experts.[/quote]

It won't matter because as SS has so brilliantly shown us, Kaepernick is most likely at the top of this second tier, and we will be taking him!

Sincerely,

KaepKrusader

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[quote=skinsfaninok;791382]True but what if shanny wants Locker enough to trade back into the late first? That's been mentioned by some draft experts.[/quote]

Well I suppose that's possible. So hard to know for sure what's going to happen. For all we know, John Beck is their guy.

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If I'm the redskins I'm doing whatever I can to get Robert Quinn at ten. If Quinns gone, I'm trading down, unless Julio Jones or AJ Green are still there.

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[quote=GTripp0012;791329]What a great outcome this would be:

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/The-Scouts-Mock.html]The Scout's Mock | National Football Post[/url][/quote]

News & UpdatesMar 30
The Scout's Mock
A new number one sits atop Bunting's latest projections.
Scouting Report.A tall, extremely long-armed defensive lineman with an athletic-looking frame and impressive explosion in all areas of his game. Possesses natural bend when asked to sit into his stance, coils up well and consistently takes a positive first step off the line and does a nice job keeping his pad level down off the football. Is a bit inconsistent extending his arms into blocks when run at and at times seems content to simply drop his shoulder and drive his way toward the football. However, seems to really have good instincts when asked to find the football and is very violent with his arms when asked to shed blocks. At times will allow defenders to gain leverage under him and can be initially driven off the ball. But, fights hard in order to disengage, uses his length and violent hands well to shed and possesses impressive closing range in pursuit. Is also very sudden and fluid for his size and has the footwork/balance to cleanly side step defenders who are trying to get into his frame, keep himself clean and close quickly on the ball carrier. Breaks down well in space and uses his long pterodactyl-like arms to wrap on his man.

Is a gifted pass rusher who fires off the snap quickly and has a real savvy about his game getting after the quarterback. Plays from both a three- and four-point stance and does a great job quickly getting into the pad level of opposing linemen in the bull rush and initially driving them into the backfield. Allows his pad level to rise, which negates some of his strength when trying to finish, but is long enough to shed. Does a nice job using his long arms and violent hands in order to keep himself clean, loves to work the club to the outside, slowly playing it off the snap before accelerating past the tackle. He also has impressive lateral fluidity in balance working the inside arm over and club off his speed rush in order to cleanly side step blocks and accelerate toward the quarterback. Allows his pad level to get upright again once he gains a step and can be slowed through contact, but the motor seems to run well all the time. Has the ability to drop his pad level when flattening out around the edge once he gains a step, but doesn't often simply work the speed rush to the corner, likes to change gears and directions in order to reach the QB.

Also, is a bear to block inside as a down defensive tackle, played some three-technique and has the first step to shoot gaps inside, but it's his lateral suddenness and length that allows him to consistently slip blocks inside and accelerate toward the quarterback.

Missed some time in 2010 with a fractured fibula in a non-weight bearing bone in his leg and will need to check out medically.

Impression: A downright dominant defensive lineman with an impressive physical skill set and great length. Showcases impress savvy, fluidity and violence as a pass rusher and should be able to further develop in the run game and mature into a potential Pro Bowl-caliber NFL defensive lineman.

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Aldon Smith doesn't sound too bad to me.

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[quote=SmootSmack;791390]Well I suppose that's possible. So hard to know for sure what's going to happen. For all we know, [B]John Beck is their guy[/B].[/quote]

He's under contract! More we can say for Rexy.

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[quote=SkinzWin;791384]It won't matter because as SS has so brilliantly shown us, Kaepernick is most likely at the top of this second tier, and we will be taking him!

Sincerely,

[B]KaepKrusader[/B][/quote]


I Like the the name SW.

Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft thread.
 

[quote=53Fan;791400]News & UpdatesMar 30
The Scout's Mock
A new number one sits atop Bunting's latest projections.
Scouting Report.A tall, extremely long-armed defensive lineman with an athletic-looking frame and impressive explosion in all areas of his game. Possesses natural bend when asked to sit into his stance, coils up well and consistently takes a positive first step off the line and does a nice job keeping his pad level down off the football. Is a bit inconsistent extending his arms into blocks when run at and at times seems content to simply drop his shoulder and drive his way toward the football. However, seems to really have good instincts when asked to find the football and is very violent with his arms when asked to shed blocks. At times will allow defenders to gain leverage under him and can be initially driven off the ball. But, fights hard in order to disengage, uses his length and violent hands well to shed and possesses impressive closing range in pursuit. Is also very sudden and fluid for his size and has the footwork/balance to cleanly side step defenders who are trying to get into his frame, keep himself clean and close quickly on the ball carrier. Breaks down well in space and uses his long pterodactyl-like arms to wrap on his man.

Is a gifted pass rusher who fires off the snap quickly and has a real savvy about his game getting after the quarterback. Plays from both a three- and four-point stance and does a great job quickly getting into the pad level of opposing linemen in the bull rush and initially driving them into the backfield. Allows his pad level to rise, which negates some of his strength when trying to finish, but is long enough to shed. Does a nice job using his long arms and violent hands in order to keep himself clean, loves to work the club to the outside, slowly playing it off the snap before accelerating past the tackle. He also has impressive lateral fluidity in balance working the inside arm over and club off his speed rush in order to cleanly side step blocks and accelerate toward the quarterback. Allows his pad level to get upright again once he gains a step and can be slowed through contact, but the motor seems to run well all the time. Has the ability to drop his pad level when flattening out around the edge once he gains a step, but doesn't often simply work the speed rush to the corner, likes to change gears and directions in order to reach the QB.

Also, is a bear to block inside as a down defensive tackle, played some three-technique and has the first step to shoot gaps inside, but it's his lateral suddenness and length that allows him to consistently slip blocks inside and accelerate toward the quarterback.

Missed some time in 2010 with a fractured fibula in a non-weight bearing bone in his leg and will need to check out medically.

Impression: A downright dominant defensive lineman with an impressive physical skill set and great length. Showcases impress savvy, fluidity and violence as a pass rusher and should be able to further develop in the run game and mature into a potential Pro Bowl-caliber NFL defensive lineman.

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Aldon Smith doesn't sound too bad to me.[/quote]


I think if JJ is there at 10 we will almost certainly trade back.

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According to the draft trade value chart we could:

a) trade down with New England at 17 or San Diego at 18, both of these teams being loaded with picks. We pick up an extra second round pick.

then
b) trade down again with the Saints at 24 or the Seahawks at 25, garnering a third round draft pick.

then
at #24 or #25 pick Phil Taylor, nose tackle (or Lockerheads could get their guy, most likely)

we'd still have two seconds and a third to get a QB, G/C, OLB, WR, RB, whatever we wanted.

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I like that scenario Lotus and the only thing I would disagree with would be that I think once you start rooting for the Cowgirls treatment is probably a little late.....unless you're thinking Frontal Lobotomy?

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;791493]I Like the the name SW.[/quote]

Thanks. I had an epiphany last week, mid way through typing a post about Kaepernick. I'm not sure if you can tell, but I like him a lot. We should get him.